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New guy question #777715 07/01/19 9:40 pm
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Over the weekend I became the owner of two basket case goldstar’s one is a ‘58 and the other is a 62 Rocket Goldstar both have engines but are missing small parts.. still digging thru boxes. I want to build one of the two into fun rider but this is my first adventure in british bikes. I assume the ‘62 is easier to ride but would like to hear from you guys. My thought is to sell one to fund the other

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Re: New guy question [Re: Tony Proasi] #777719 07/01/19 9:56 pm
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Hi,

First of all, let Some one confirm if the framenumber (and engine) of the ‘62 one is genuine RGS.
‘58 can not be a RGS since the RGS range/model started only in ‘62.

Second, if there is a genuine RGS one.. restore it, or sell that one if you not want a orriginal looking motorcycle.. they are worth more, far more if genuine...
The other one can become your fun bike..

Third... sell the one you don’t want, after the one you want to keep, because you always end up with that you sold the parts you needed after all.

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Re: New guy question [Re: Tony Proasi] #777724 07/01/19 11:49 pm
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I presume the 58 is a single. What are the letters and numbers on the left side of the engines and off the frames so we can give better advice. You can type xx for the last couple of numbers to protect yourself.

Sounds like a great start.

Gordo


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Re: New guy question [Re: Gordo in Comox] #777725 07/01/19 11:56 pm
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I have the 58 GS here the other is at work the frame number on it is CB32.7213 engine number is DB.34.CS662. I will get the other frame number tomorrow when I get to work

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Is the engine DB 34 GS 662 as there should not be a C before the S?

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Re: New guy question [Re: Gordo in Comox] #777730 07/02/19 1:14 am
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Gordo

You are correct it is a “G”. Not sure how to post pictures.

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What is interesting about your frame and engine, assuming they left the factory together, is that it shows how late the DB 34 engines were actually being made. The lists are not clear if the DB34 engines went past the 1957 model year. For photos there is a tutorial elsewhere on this site.

Gordo

PS. I found a chart in the Sept 2015 issue of the GSOC newsletter that shows the last DB34 GS to be despatched (engine #1645) went out 13 Dec 1956 which would make it a 1957 model. Your frame appears to be a 1958 as you stated. If it really matters to you if your engine started out in your frame you could join the Gold Star Owners Club and get the information. http://www.bsagoldstarownersclub.com/

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Re: New guy question [Re: Gordo in Comox] #777762 07/02/19 10:45 am
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Thanks I will join to verify the numbers. Here are the numbers to the RGS DA10R.7580 GA10.380

Re: New guy question [Re: Tony Proasi] #777766 07/02/19 12:31 pm
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There are more RGS replia's than factory built ones, genuine replicas advertised as replica's go for 50% of a factory one. As yours is likely to be factory then I would disguise the numbers or they could be copied and used to create a fake factory RGS from a replica and your bike ends up being in 2 places at the same time.

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Hi frame no GA10 380 7 engine no DA 10R 7580 LEFT THE FACTORY ON 26 7 62 TO HAP ALZINA
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Tony: I think you hit a gold mine! Basket cases can be a long haul for sure but when they are more or less complete and just all apart I like to think that half of the work is already done. Good luck with the projects.

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Re: New guy question [Re: Gordo in Comox] #777821 07/02/19 11:01 pm
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Tony,
I think I'll ask if the A10 frame has the passenger footpeg frame loops or not... Could be if not, you actually have a GSS, a gold star spitfire scrambler...

Either way, like Gordo said, you sure hit a gold mine! Those GA10 frames are not common.

The fellow who checked my GSS had to go back a time or two to figure out that it was a GSS, and not an RGS. The factory paperwork is not ultra reliable, and sometimes the scribbles are almost illegible... That's just what I've seen... Some folks are gonna yell at me now.....

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Rickman,

Thanks I will take a look at the frame tomorrow. The one thing I did notice is the RGS frame is missing the fuel tank lug. Looks like it was never there.

Going to post some photos.

Tony

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My DB GS has an engine number of 642 and is 1955 . Yours must be very similar age . the 500 frame does have a bracket missing but that wont be a difficult fix heres a photo of mine whist still under restoration .
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Tony

It appears your RGS frame has no rear loops which as Rickman pointed out could mean it's a Gold Star Spitfire Scrambler. But then again someone has removed the the tank mounting lug so the rear loops could have been removed also. Contact Ian Jackson at the BSAUK Gold Star Owners Club and he can check the numbers. If it is a '62 Spitfire Scrambler it would be one of a few around. There were less than 300 '62 RGS's built and only a handful of those were scramblers.


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Originally Posted by Tony Proasi
Rickman,

Thanks I will take a look at the frame tomorrow. The one thing I did notice is the RGS frame is missing the fuel tank lug. Looks like it was never there.

Going to post some photos.

Tony

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On your A10 frame your seat nose mount is also missing and there is a horizontal hole drilled the the frame tube near where the tank mounting lug would have been suggesting that at some point these items were removed to mount a custom fuel tank. Another observation is the sidestand lug has broken off or been removed.


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I want to thank everyone for the info I submitted application to the owners club. After spending the last couple days sorting thru parts I think I’m going to keep the 500cc Goldstar as I have more parts for it then the Rocket goldstar.

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Tony,
I wouldn't arbitrarily peddle the GSSS quickly, you may find parts off of it you need for the Goldy, AND being that it's a rare model you may kick yourself later, once the parts start filtering your way.

Yeah, making a central tank mount for a BSA is no big deal, I have three sitting on my bench? Clamp-on type...

If it really needs to go, tell ME what you need, I'm only 200 or so miles away?

There is a big BSA/british meet coming up at the begining of August, on the east side of Ohio, just north of Steubenville, come and see what you find?

I wouldn't bother with any of the Walnec's meets, the ones I've been to lately have little to no BSA parts.

There seems to be a british bike club up around the Cinnci area, but I find it hard to locate any of them, except at the Steubenville meet...
Brett

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Further to Brett's post, the RGS engine and gearbox parts and a lot of the cycle parts were also used on the Super Rocket, so are more readily available than one might think

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There is only so many hours in the day and I don't think I want to restore two of these bikes at this point. So if I can sell one to fund the resto on the other... I will try to make it out to the show. I always like a good swap meet.

Brett your mailbox is full send me a message if you want to talk about the RGS

Tony

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