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Science corner
#771244 04/16/19 8:52 pm
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Science is not about consensus,
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Re: Science corner
Keane Lucas #771707 04/21/19 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Keane Lucas
Science is not about consensus,
and consensus is not science


How true. The UK and lesser Western European countries are suffering the medjia-driven consensus re: "man-made global warming", resulting in high energy prices:

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Re: Science corner
Keane Lucas #771714 04/21/19 8:28 pm
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The only reason the cost of electricity in the US and Canada is so low is because we have an abundance of low cost natural gas due the development of fracking of shale which has unlocked huge reserves that were uneconomic prior to developing that technology. Unfortunately none of the European countries or Japan have natural gas reserves on anything like that scale. A lot of the natural gas in Europe is imported from Russia at whatever cost the market will bear. It is simply a matter of economics and that has what driven the switch from coal to natural gas in the US. While clean air legislation has encouraged the switch the real driver has been the fact that shale gas is currently the cheapest option and electric companies must answer to their shareholders. As far as Brazil, Indonesia and China, those are state owned oil and gas producers that keep the cost of energy artificially low.

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Re: Science corner
Keane Lucas #771756 04/22/19 10:01 am
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Australia has huge reserves of natural gas [as well as large coal deposits], but our energy prices are very high. This is driven not only by the global warming hysteria but also by the solar panel craze. In Australia many homes have mum and dad invested solar panels that reduce energy costs by up to 90%. This means that the large energy companies sell heaps less electricity to households, this eats into their bottom line profits. It still costs the nearly [there is some reduction] the same to produce their electricity, the poles and wires cost just as much to maintain, but sales are plummeting. And very soon - almost now - it will be more economical for those same mums and dads to install wall batteries from companies like Tesla to compliment their solar panels. This will reduce the large coal/nuclear/hydro power company sales even further, almost to the point were it will become uneconomical for them the continue producing it. In years to come manufacturers and industry may have to source their own alternative power suppliers.

Our next challenge won't be house and home guys. There is a drive here to make electric car sales equal 50% of the market by 2030. This ratio may well increase as time goes. If this is the case, how long will it be before we cannot access petroleum fuel for our motorcycles? I think I will see it becoming difficult in my lifetime. Sure we can order a special drum of fuel and fill from home, but there will be no touring or trips without meticulous planning and knowing where you can 'fill 'er up'!!!

I 100% agree global warming is happening, but I also keep in mind that it can be a natural cycle as much as man made. 30,000 years ago Tasmania was joined to mainland Australia by land and ice, man didn't affect global warming for this to disappear.

Re: Science corner
Keane Lucas #771761 04/22/19 11:43 am
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I don't have a strong opinion about Global Warming being man made...But what I do know, it took the "civilized" Europeans and their descendants 200 years to turn the Great Lakes and many rivers into a toilet...You have to think about if the atmosphere is the same....


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Re: Science corner
Keane Lucas #771763 04/22/19 12:29 pm
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"Global Warming" is cyclical. The earth has always gone through warming and cooling phases.

Greenland was called "gree-land" by the Vikings, because about 900 AD it was warmer, and could be inhabited.
Then it got colder and they vacated it.

There have been several ice ages, some longer, some shorter. All were ended by "global warming," or THAWS, as we geezers used to call them. Remember forty years ago, when the left-wing loonies were telling us we would all FREEZE TO DEATH under a fifteen-foot-thick layer of ice and snow in twenty years?

WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS THAT GLACIAL LAYER OF ICE TODAY?
It was all B.S., and so is all the current hysteria of "Global Warming."

This "global Warming" stuff is a false, highly exaggerated hoax being used by governments to control gullible members of their populations. If the earth IS warming, it is a natural phenomenon, not "man-made."
If mankind has anything to do with it, it's such a fractional part of one percent as to be negligible.

As was stated at the beginning of this thread, "Science is not about consensus."
So when you read or hear "Scientists agree that global warming is a threat", that's all crap, as well.

Re: Science corner
Keane Lucas #771767 04/22/19 1:28 pm
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The FACT is, there is NOT consensus. Since the liberals believe in it, AND control academia, the "non-believers" are squeezed into silence, or out the door. Once they are out the door, their opinions are no longer part of "consensus" that gets published.


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Re: Science corner
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