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Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #763142 01/21/19 11:50 pm
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Spent most of the day digging through the 38 Speed Twin stuff I have been collecting. I am thinking it would do the job.

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Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #763152 01/22/19 1:40 am
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oooooh, yes.


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Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #763156 01/22/19 2:59 am
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Enjoyable as that motorcycle adventure might be, I'm planning one of my own around the Southwest in the Spring for my Cannonball teammate and another friend. My adventure will involve three Gold Stars and will address the three major shortcomings of the Cannonball from my perspective: lack of good food, necessity of setting an alarm clock every night (i.e. rigid schedule with too-early starting times), and lack of decent coffee every morning.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #763179 01/22/19 10:24 am
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What, no BBQ on this adventure MM? What type of motorcycle adventure you gonna have with no BBQ?


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Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Rich B #763209 01/22/19 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Rich B
What type of motorcycle adventure you gonna have with no BBQ?
It's the kind of adventure where every time I pick up a menu the many items on it will be a surprise, as opposed to the non-adventure of knowing the only item will be pulled pork. For breakfast, lunch and dinner...

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #763255 01/23/19 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by Magnetoman
It's the kind of adventure where every time I pick up a menu the many items on it will be a surprise, as opposed to the non-adventure of knowing the only item will be pulled pork. For breakfast, lunch and dinner...


Sheesh....are you saying you grew tired of pulled pork? Do you realize there are starving people in the world who would love to have 3 squares/day of pulled pork. This sounds like a 1st world attitude to me.

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Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #763295 01/23/19 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Rich B
Do you realize there are starving people in the world who would love to have 3 squares/day of pulled pork. This sounds like a 1st world attitude to me.
I don't know how you can say that. First, motorcycles are a primary form of transportation in 3rd world countries, and in solidarity with that we won't just be riding motorcycles, we'll be riding obsolete motorcycles. And second, many 3rd world countries are Muslim-majority where pulled pork isn't even a menu option. So, I simply can't understand how my attitude toward that wretched food could be any more sympathetic to 3rd world sensibilities.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #763332 01/23/19 9:37 pm
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Dear Mr. MMan---I think that you are being very unfair to us swine.
FYI we are shortly to start a campaign to convert everyone in the world to be either a Muslim or a Jew.
In that way the swinocide of my bothers and sisters will cease and we will take over the world.
While waiting for that glorious day please note that we do not like being pulled---gentle persuasion is so much more civilized.
Signed, Percy Pig aka Henry Hog in US.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
RPM #763541 01/25/19 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by RPM
Spent most of the day digging through the 38 Speed Twin stuff I have been collecting. I am thinking it would do the job.



It would be an ideal tool for the job.

And.

Looking at what lot 92 made at Bonhams yesterday, if you have the makings of a '38 then it might be time to get it together.

John

(P.S. sorry to hijack MM's thread)

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
George Kaplan #763559 01/25/19 11:27 pm
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Originally Posted by George Kaplan
Looking at what lot 92 made at Bonhams yesterday,
And looking at what the near-identical lot 92 made you can see how much a celebrity's name is worth.

Maybe the same person bought both of them to use in a ~$220k Cannonball team effort.

By the way, this Ariel thread should get reved up again shortly as my work on blueprinting BSA forks revs down.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #764869 02/08/19 8:21 pm
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Now I am reading Admiral Bill Halsey by T. A. Hughes, and The Darkening Age - the Christian destruction of the classical world by C. Nixey.

But soon I will be back to my favourite saga, if Mr. M-Man comes through with new chapters!

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
old mule #764905 02/09/19 2:44 am
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Originally Posted by old mule
But soon I will be back to my favourite saga, if Mr. M-Man comes through with new chapters!
Flattery is appreciated, but will get you nowhere because I'm multitasking as inefficiently as I can. However, as soon as I get my Gold Star's forks rebuilt I plan to be back at work on the Ariel.

p.s. despite the lack of recent posts people are still reading this thread. It hit 350,000 five days ago so add to the following +1.8 months; 350,000:
Originally Posted by Magnetoman
9 months to reach 50,000 views
+3 months; 100,000
+2 months; 150,000
+1.8 months; 200,000
+1.5 months; 250,000
+1.8 months; 300,000

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Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #768746 03/20/19 11:34 pm
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So isn't TIME about to become an issue?


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Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
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Originally Posted by Alan_nc
So isn't TIME about to become an issue?
The lack of time is a continuing issue with everything I'm doing, but the next self-imposed deadline I face is a Gold Star Ride to take place after the weather isn't too cold in the mountains and before it's too hot in the desert. For that I need my Competition Gold Star running and for that I need my DocZ rollers uipgraded to be able to spin its 10:1 engine.

Swapping from clip-ons to regular handlebars to have the Competition GS ready for that ride should have been a one-day job. But, one thing led to another and here I am two months later with the forks finished but then having solved petcock issues to swap fuel tanks (not part of the original plan) and now waiting for parts to upgrade my DocZ's electrical and friction system (not recognized at the time as an issue that needed addressing) so I can sort out the jetting in its two-stroke 1000-series Concentric (also, not originally recognized as an issue that needed solving).

It's been so long since I worked on the Ariel that I might not recognize it if not for the fact I have to walk by it multiple times a day when I'm in the garage. But, every time I look at it I tell myself I'll be back working on it 'soon, very very soon.' Meanwhile, progress actually has been made on the Ariel, in that after some months on backorder, last week Kibblewhite cancelled my order for a special large-head exhaust valve because they will no longer stock it. This reduces my options for fixing the head to one -- installing a new seat (which I already have).

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #772408 04/30/19 11:19 pm
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Thinking of the time many years ago when my motorbike friends and i took the "400" - the train - from Mpls down to Chicago to see "The Art of the Motorcycle". A fine trip to a very worth while exhibit. and we all at the time toasted the organizer. And that led me to thinking about your fine Ariel, just checking in here.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
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Originally Posted by old mule
we all at the time toasted the organizer..
I definitely appreciate the sentiment. Actually, both co-curators are on BritBike, the other being NYBSAGUY.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #772438 05/01/19 12:58 pm
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Guilty as charged, yer 'onner. Magnetoman and I actually met through the forerunner of BritBike, which name escapes me now.

It was the best of times.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
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Originally Posted by NYBSAGUY
Guilty as charged, yer 'onner.
Although we share the credit for selecting the bikes in the Art of the Motorcycle, I claim full credit for him seeking what are the two best British bikes in his garage, which is why he is NYBSAGUY.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
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Grudging acknowledgment to Magnetoman for the procurement of both BSAs in my garage. To be fair to me, a rarity, my first ride on a motorcycle was on an NSU Quickly, which was actually a moped that ran very slowly, so it doesn't count. And the second ride was on a BSA Bantam. That, perhaps, explains why I didn't become really interested in BSAs until I was well into middle age.

Again, our thanks to 'Old Mule' and his friends for taking the trip from Minneapolis to Chicago to see the exhibition.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #772467 05/01/19 10:36 pm
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We would have ridden down there but it was the dead of winter. We stayed at the Blackstone, home of the original "smoke filled room", (since condo'd). Fun trip and we returned even more enthusiastic about our ancient decrepit motorbikes.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
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Originally Posted by old mule
We would have ridden down there but it was the dead of winter.
The University of Minnesota brought me there in the dead of winter to give a public lecture on 'The Art of the Motorcycle.' They booked the largest auditorium which must have held at least 400 and it was full. Showing, if nothing else, that even if people can't ride their motorcycles, they still want to hear about them (or, perhaps it's just that in the dead of winter in Minneapolis people will use just about any excuse to get out of the house). I still remember the reaction of one audience member who asked if we had a Whizzer in the exhibition, and who acted pretty upset when I said 'no'. Hey, you can't make everyone happy.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
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Last winter I spent in MN, girlfriend and I put on our helmets and leathers, sat on couch watching "V four victory" -4F outside on Christmas day. Others up there do similar desperate things.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
Magnetoman #798559 02/17/20 6:22 pm
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The wry observation made by a friend after I accepted an invitation to post-FSU Ukraine 30 years ago, only a month after a horrible trip to a conference held in a frigid former Young Pioneer's camp in Russia caused me to swear I'd never go back, was that "The mark of an intelligent man is learning from his mistakes." I've since been back to Russia four times and Ukraine once ...

Anyway, on the subject of intelligence, learning from the mistakes of others is even better. That said, two years ago Lannis foolishly started a thread in the Projects forum specifically to publicly shame himself into actually working on a project. However, he soon realized he has no shame, and no work resulted. Showing I'm equally capable of not learning from his mistakes as well as my own, I hereby resolve to re-start my Ariel rebuild soon. Very soon.

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
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Mag-man, good luck with the Ariel

I have two from the 1950s, and have hunted the correct parts for them since 1980, still don't have everything.

Parts are rare, few, and far between, unless it's for a "square four."

Re: 1928 Ariel Model C
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Originally Posted by Irish Swede
Parts are rare, few, and far between, unless it's for a "square four."
Post-War Ariels were imported to the U.S. so there's at least the hope of finding parts for them. Luckily, my Pre-War Ariel came complete, because otherwise it would have been very difficult indeed to find parts for it at the local swap meet.

The problem with pausing a project for a year is I have to remind myself of things I knew then that are now lost in the mists of time. Case in point is that manganese bronze guides can have issues with iron heads because of thermal expansion but, despite that, I ordered a pair from Kibblewhite shortly after returning from the Cannonball, along with a Black Diamond valve. I also ordered two types of valve seats. Everything arrived promptly except for the valve, which they cancelled a few months later. So, why did I order Mn bronze despite the possible thermal expansion issue? Do I need the surface treatment on their no-longer-available valve to avoid seizing in a Mn bronze guide that's in an iron head? I knew the answers to these questions in October 2018, but I don't know today. Also, which of the two types of seats that I ordered should I use?

Anyway, this evening I wrote to their very helpful tech to ask. Hopefully, the information that I included in my email is short enough to read, but comprehensive enough to remind him, so that he won't be too annoyed being asked to re-answer questions.


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