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freatherbed #76134
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hi
anyone know where i could get featherbed frame
diagram so i can start next project
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Re: freatherbed #76135
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Featherbed frame project for what ??

I'm not sure that Norton ever published any frame drawings - Reynolds Tubing certainly owned the early frame jigs (and designs ?).

There are literally dozens of versions of the featherbed frame. Apart from wideline and slimline, there are manx and dominator, mercury and atlas, and a whole myriad of later versions for different uses. All these are subtle variations on a theme, but quite different when measured against each other.

In this neck of the woods (sunny Australia) the local frame merchants have made versions for a Vincent-Norvin (where the motor slips straight in), a Hinckley Bonneville (where the head will come off in the frame) a Sportster engined version (bolt straight in) and even bolting in turbocharged car engines.

Seems the go is to just measure up whatever frame you can find, and make something with approximately the same shape and steering angle. Don't laugh, the Honda4 family of frames are said to be (loosely) based on a Manx that Jim Redman (?) bought and took over to them...

Tell us more...
Opethiselps.

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I'm sure I've seen a thread what included a pic of an orriginal featherbed wideline racing jig bought at auction...

If yo need measurements, you've come to the right place. Ask.


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Re: freatherbed #76137
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Rohan what is the name of this genius framemaker in Oztralia.(for norvins)


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He is called mcintoshracing.com and is situated in NZ.

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Les,
These are 4 different framemakers, which one are you interested in ? Most of them are heading towards being semi-retired, or up to their ears in resto work.

Ken in NZ is supposed to be good, but he makes absolute replicas of Manx, which are $$ ?

One of the locals here had a jig to make Atlas frames. Side by side, I couldn't see any differences. He Tigged em, looked good...

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and Ray Brennan in Gisborne NZ makes Lowboy frames if you want one of those.

Ken McIntoshes (Auckland) are very good. He makes the frames for some of the name engine makers in the UK.

Prices are not so bad. You can get them from his website.

He has got engineering drawings of the frames but I cannot see him giving them away laugh

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also I think Bob Nesbitt Upper Hutt Wellington NZ "Classic Cycles" does a Lowboy Kit.

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Those are Ray Brennans. He makes them for him.

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Rohan i have a wideline frame with a cut vincent engine.With a stretched (wider across the bottom rails)frame to allow the engine to sit down lower(better handling)Who makes a frame like this in Oz.Thanks.


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Originally posted by Rohan:
[QB] Featherbed frame project for what ??


There are literally dozens of versions of the featherbed frame. Apart from wideline and slimline, there are manx and dominator, mercury and atlas, and a whole myriad of later versions for different uses. All these are subtle variations on a theme, but quite different when measured against each other.

How's a Mercury/650ss + Atlas slimline Featherbed different from the standard slimline Dominator Featherbed? Always thought they were the same.


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How's a Mercury/650ss + Atlas slimline Featherbed different from the standard slimline Dominator Featherbed? Always thought they were the same.

They are the same, or at least were in 1961-1964, after that the the rear cross piece was welded in instead of bolted in.


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Can you bolt the skirted bits from a Deluxe model onto an Atlas ??

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Can you bolt the skirted bits from a Deluxe model onto an Atlas ??
Well, you could, but only if you added the six extra brackets, (Either side; under tank, adjacent swinging arm spindle, rear subframe loop) and changed a few other things as well, oil tank, battery carrier, rear damper top bolts etc, but why would you want to?


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Re: freatherbed [Re: oilyrag] #215126
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Hi All,

Before this thread slides out of existence.

Rohan, you mentioned 'a local' making Atlas frames. Could you reveal who this is? I have an Atlas frame desperately in need of some serious TLC and would like get in touch with someone to fix it. Prefer someone familiar with these things. Saw a guy on evilbay advertising slimline (I think) frames and I thought he was in Brisbane. He slipped out of my watched list before I emailed him and I cant find the details now.

Or, input from anyone else in OZ that can make a useful suggestion here would also be appreciated.

Many thanks
Ray


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The man in Brisbane was Don Pender. I don't know if he's still in those parts though.


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Re: freatherbed [Re: norbsa48503] #215323
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Liam, Please post lots of pics as you go along.


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Re: freatherbed [Re: waspfarmer] #215358
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For frame repair I would think Bob Martin in Melbourne.

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Hi All,

Thanks for the suggestions. I bought some stuff from Don Pender a while ago he was selling up and moving on. Thailand?? Didnt know he was doing frames. I have the feeling the eBay vendor doing the frames was more recent than Don's departure but not sure.

Unfortunately Bob Martin's business has folded since his death. There was a thread on one of the other forums (BSA or Triumph perhaps) saying his sons tried to keep it going but it all got too tough. There is always Dave Kellet here in Brisbane who does a good job on straightening. Trouble is my frame needs need shock mount loops and stuff so it would be good to get hold of someone who is already doing this stuff.

Cheers
Ray





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Re: freatherbed [Re: BrizzoBrit] #215489
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Rohan thanks for the PM.Few yrs ago I drove up to see Neil Gentner & left him a slimline frame to repair,damage around steering head.He had the frame for 12 mounths,no phone call or repair.Drove back up from Sydney to pick up frame & was told frame would'nt fit in his wideline jig.Rohan have you got any other names.Les.


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lowboys do vary somewhat, our tank maker will not make a tank for a lowboy unless he has made one for that persons frames before. we use original drawings, with just a slight difference so we can spot one of our frames when in use. we've made manx's and lowboys and now metric stuff for 40 years. we use 17g t45 bronze welded using sif bronze n.o.1 rods and a fluxing unit.


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