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Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr #758289
12/06/18 12:01 am
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Hi mates
Barry from Western Australia , I'm looking to buy a CB / DB 500 Goldstar and need a few tips
The main thing is how in "general" are the modern engines regarded as to a genuine one
ie, not as good, better , just the same
Also if a DB34 is 10 out of 10 how would you rate a CB500 in "general"
and any other tips would be a great help
looked at a couple, one had engine No DBD GS --but no 34 stamped --prob' modern engine---------------,, another was a CB500 but an gen'? engine of a later year , ---------and going to look at another DBD500 with a modern engine
Barry

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Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: barry2] #758319
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Originally Posted by barry2
I'm looking to buy a CB / DB 500 Goldstar and need a few tips
Tip #1, get someone to buy this for you for Christmas before you spend money on a Gold Star.

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Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: barry2] #758325
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I think this is what was missing form the above post!

https://www.amazon.com/Gold-Star-Buyers-Companion/dp/0615780806

If you want a bike to ride, originality (as in a frame and engine dispatched from the factory together) is less of a consideration, though price should reflect this, 'replica' aspects even mores e.g. B31 frame/cases/reproduction barrel, head.

There are those that believe the CB34 engine was the best of the bunch, with oval flywheels, thought he DBD had will make more power. Notoriety/glamour/top $ leans towards a Clubmans DBD with 190mm brake, Dunlop alloy rims, RTT2 box, an 1 1/2 GP carb, and a documented history starting with an engine test certificate and Gold Star Owners Club dating letter, showing the frame and engine started life together and on what day. Practically, that bike would be no better to ride than a well put together/sorted B31 with a Gold Star top end.

Frankly, I'd buy the closest thing to the above original spec/documented history that you can.


No generalisation is wholly true, not even this one.
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Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: barry2] #758473
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I have both modern (ABSAF) and original Goldstars. The modern motors are pretty much bullet proof. Most original goldstars have been run into the ground and it is suggested you replace at least the crank assembly to make them reliable. As an investment DBD 34 is the way to go. If you want to seriously use the bike I think the more modern the better.


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Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: barry2] #758830
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Hi Mates
Thanks for the info', missed the 1955 CB500. needed renovating and a bit of the chrome done, offed $1800k went for $1900 aust, the modern DBD500 like new , they are asking $25,000
Barry

Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: barry2] #758915
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I have some in between those prices, just gonna need to get them on a ship!

Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: barry2] #759240
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There is a 1954 BB34 Goldstar here as a project.. Engine and gearbox all done https://mikesclassiccyclespares.com/product/1954-bsa-bb34-goldstar-touring-500/
If not, give Mike a call and he may be able to help out with something else. We also stock a LOT of parts for them here

Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: barry2] #759299
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Originally Posted by MikesClassics
There is a 1954 BB34 Goldstar here as a project..
For what it's worth, my 1954 BB34 Touring Gold Star with Std gearbox may be my favorite Gold Star, although the Catalina with ASCT is a contender for the title. The Catalina is great fun to ride and gets more attention from bystanders, and the Special Competition (in Clubman configuration) has more h.p. and could get up a mountain road a bit faster, but the BB does it all with aplomb.

As Shane in Oz can attest, the BB is good in city traffic, goes up a paved mountain road just fine, and gets the rider safely back down a treacherous unmaintained dirt road just as fine. Although the Catalina does these things just as well, which is why it's hard for me to decide a favorite between them, they're in shorter supply than "ordinary" Gold Stars. But, for me, any Gold Star is at least a 9.5 so it's hard to go wrong. Unless it's a Clubman with RRT2 and clip-ons for use on unmaintained dirt roads in the mountains, in which case it's a -5. The point of the last sentence being, if there is no other information to go on, it's impossible to offer valid advice on any motorcycle purchase.

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Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: Magnetoman] #759313
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Originally Posted by Magnetoman
Originally Posted by MikesClassics
There is a 1954 BB34 Goldstar here as a project..
For what it's worth, my 1954 BB34 Touring Gold Star with Std gearbox may be my favorite Gold Star, although the Catalina with ASCT is a contender for the title. The Catalina is great fun to ride and gets more attention from bystanders, and the Special Competition (in Clubman configuration) has more h.p. and could get up a mountain road a bit faster, but the BB does it all with aplomb.

As Shane in Oz can attest, the BB is good in city traffic, goes up a paved mountain road just fine, and gets the rider safely back down a treacherous unmaintained dirt road just as fine. Although the Catalina does these things just as well, which is why it's hard for me to decide a favorite between them, they're in shorter supply than "ordinary" Gold Stars. But, for me, any Gold Star is at least a 9.5 so it's hard to go wrong. Unless it's a Clubman with RRT2 and clip-ons for use on unmaintained dirt roads in the mountains, in which case it's a -5. The point of the last sentence being, if there is no other information to go on, it's impossible to offer valid advice on any motorcycle purchase.

Both of you are trying to weaken my determination to reduce BSA numbers in the shed.

Even with the somewhat sub-optimal clutch adjustment at the time, the BB is indeed a sweet machine which handled all the conditions it encountered with ease.
I might note that "treacherous" is a touch of uncharacteristic understatement from an American wink

Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: barry2] #759316
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For all the reasons mentioned by M-Man, if I were in Oz, instead of New York City, I would snap up that BB project. And I say that as the owner of a lovely ZB34 'bitsa', seen SEEN HERE. Not to mention a Catalina, undergoing a slow 'restoration'.


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1959 BSA DBD34 Catalina
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1974 Norton Commando 850 R (I know, one too many)
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Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: Shane in Oz] #759352
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Originally Posted by Shane in Oz
I might note that "treacherous" is a touch of uncharacteristic understatement from an American
The sign at the start that said something like "This road is not maintained. Take it at your own risk" might have worried you, especially given the condition of many of our roads that are maintained. Also, I realize that coming from an island it might have seemed further to you to the bottom of the abyss, but I doubt if it was more than a 2000-ft. drop into the canyon below and, even then, it was only on one side of the road. Plus, the drop eventually reduced to 0 as we descended on the road so, on average, it was only 1000 ft. Further, apparently you've forgotten there was a cliff rising above us on the other side of the road so, since the integral of (canyon+cliff)/2=0, considering the ride as a whole there was no average drop-off to have concerned you at all.

Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: Magnetoman] #759362
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Originally Posted by Magnetoman
Originally Posted by Shane in Oz
I might note that "treacherous" is a touch of uncharacteristic understatement from an American
The sign at the start that said something like "This road is not maintained. Take it at your own risk" might have worried you, especially given the condition of many of our roads that are maintained. Also, I realize that coming from an island it might have seemed further to you to the bottom of the abyss, but I doubt if it was more than a 2000-ft. drop into the canyon below and, even then, it was only on one side of the road. Plus, the drop eventually reduced to 0 as we descended on the road so, on average, it was only 1000 ft. Further, apparently you've forgotten there was a cliff rising above us on the other side of the road so, since the integral of (canyon+cliff)/2=0, considering the ride as a whole there was no average drop-off to have concerned you at all.
Fair enough - I thought Oklahoma was hilly.

A confounding factor of the descent was what seemed to be a schwere Panzerabteilung advancing uphill while we were heading down the dirt road, though they may have been something rather more mundane.

Getting back to Barry's original question, one of our members is finding some of his bikes a bit of a handful, and is thinking of selling his DB Gold Star. PM me if that's of interest and I'll put you in touch.

Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: Shane in Oz] #759435
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Originally Posted by Shane in Oz
Fair enough - I thought Oklahoma was hilly.


depends.

over in the west, it's way up in the air with mesas:

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in the east, oklahoma is wet and wooded:

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in the middle it's flat and somewhat windy:

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Re: Wanted; Tips on buying a BSA goldstarr [Re: MikesClassics] #759689
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Originally Posted by MikesClassics
There is a 1954 BB34 Goldstar here as a project..

Barry, have you bought that yet so I can stop being tempted?


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