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1973 Triumph TR5T #756700
11/20/18 8:38 pm
11/20/18 8:38 pm
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Arlington, Massachusetts 02474
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Update: I find that I've been experiencing "seller's remorse" even though I haven't sold it! So I am withdrawing the offering, for now, at least, while I mull it over.

kf

11 DEC 2018
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Early and sudden onset of winter has stopped work on the TR5T in my unheated garage til spring, ... .

I bought it in June 2017 from the third owner, and the history of the bike is known back to the selling dealer, the late Lloyd (Bud) Provin Sr. in Vermont.
My posts here on BB cover what I have done. Writing this up has helped me remember all that I've done on the bike the past 18 months. There's probably more ... .

To summarize:

Lots of cleaning, engine out (but not apart), frame sanded and painted (Rust-Oleum). Swing arm pivot apart and lubed, steering bearings cleaned and lubed.
Forks (tubes look new) rebuilt with Leakproof brand seals and with added gaiters.
Tires ("new" Continental TKC 80 Twinduro aka street knobbies) re-mounted this year with new heavy-duty tubes, MotionPro rim locks, and rim bands, then balanced.
Rims are true and not dinged.
Link to tires fyi: https://www.continental-tires.com/motorcycle/tires/motorcycle-tires/off-road-enduro/tkc-80
Rear brake shoes look new, fronts re-lined by PO.
Sprockets and chain are good, rear sprocket looks new. Chain cleaned and lubed.
Fork sliders are good with no bashing or crashing scars.

Cad parts look good.
Handlebar has nice chrome, may be new-ish.
Chrome on shock springs is very good.
Some blistering starting on headlamp shell, mounting wires in good shape.
Speedometer is good with one small scratch. Speedo drive and cable cleaned and lubed.
Front rim chrome is good.
Rear rim chrome shows some deterioration, but not full-scale rust.
Shift and brake pedals are new (PO had sacrificed the originals for his shift-brake crossover scheme).
Chrome on head pipes is pretty good, some small dings on the left.
The tank is good with patina and some scratches and one typical fork crease on the left side, no other dents.
Gas cap re-assembled with new gasket. Tank cross-over strap is in place.
Seat is good with typical cracks in the pan repaired by me with fiberglass. New mounting studs and nuts

All oils drained and flushed, oil “tank” flushed and cleaned, new oil lines.
Points look new, so I installed new coils and condensers, AAU cleaned and lubed and new springs installed, set timing with degree wheel, set valve clearances.
Carb apart and bathed in sonic cleaner. New petcocks and fuel lines. New UNI-Filter (air filter) installed.
Bike now has a Shorai battery which does not go with the bike.
I wired up ignition and charging circuits, and installed a new Tympanium voltage regulator-rectifier. New key switch.

I figured the clutch plates would be stuck so I took the primary apart and the plates out, re-installed the primary cover with a new gasket and sealed it up.
Oils in it are dino Castrol 20-50 4T API SG JASO MA2 in the oil tank and primary case, and STA-LUBE 85w-90 API GL-4 in the gearbox.

The bike starts easily and runs well with no unusual or scary noises that I can hear.
Charging checked out at 13.4v at fast idle, 14.1v revved some.
Compression test hot: throttle open, with three kicks, up to 125 psi, three more kicks brings it to 160 psi, both sides even.
Ran it and shifted through three gears in my driveway.
Now sitting on the lift with extra oil squirted in the cylinders, carb drained and dried, and the battery disconnected.

Original exhaust system in place. Original air cleaner parts in a box. Original tool kit, most of it, anyway.
Missing are the chrome fenders, skid plate, turn signals, tail lamp, tachometer head and cable (the drive gearbox is there, I have an OEM blanking plug installed now).
Lots of new small parts and fasteners. The original wiring harness is there in the box along with the handlebar switches.
Triumph shop manual and parts book included (reprints). New owners handbook included.

Clean, unmolested matching numbers TR5T PH19nnn. No title, but I have printed out the Vermont DMV registration application forms.


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Last edited by kurt fischer; 12/11/18 9:52 pm. Reason: Anticipated seller's remorse.

Kurt
1968-70-71 Triumph TR6R Bitsa - 1969 Triumph TR6R - 1971 BSA A65L - 1973 Triumph TR5T
2005 Ducati MTS 1000S DS - 2012 Ducati Hyper 796 - 2014 Kawasaki ZX1000
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Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #756719
11/21/18 5:21 am
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Love to have it but getting out of state vehicles without titles through our dmv is like pulling teeth.

Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: Snap50] #756731
11/21/18 12:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Snap50
Love to have it but getting out of state vehicles without titles through our dmv is like pulling teeth.


Don't let that stop you!

As I understand it, you can register a vehicle in Vermont without being a Vermont resident. The forms and procedures are on line VT DMV. With that registration, you could get a title in MA, for example. That's what I'll do if I still have the bike come springtime. Not to mention the loophole method. grin


Kurt
1968-70-71 Triumph TR6R Bitsa - 1969 Triumph TR6R - 1971 BSA A65L - 1973 Triumph TR5T
2005 Ducati MTS 1000S DS - 2012 Ducati Hyper 796 - 2014 Kawasaki ZX1000
Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #756745
11/21/18 2:57 pm
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That is a great price for a very nice "survivor" classic dual sport.

I can vouch for the VT system, I've done almost 20 bikes that way, zero issues ever.


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Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: GrandPaul] #756746
11/21/18 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by GrandPaul
That is a great price for a very nice "survivor" classic dual sport.

I can vouch for the VT system, I've done almost 20 bikes that way, zero issues ever.


Thanks, Paul thumbsup

Of course, if I still have it come spring, I will wire up the lights, install fenders ... and raise the price grin


Kurt
1968-70-71 Triumph TR6R Bitsa - 1969 Triumph TR6R - 1971 BSA A65L - 1973 Triumph TR5T
2005 Ducati MTS 1000S DS - 2012 Ducati Hyper 796 - 2014 Kawasaki ZX1000
Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #756748
11/21/18 4:01 pm
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If I didn't already own a 73 TR5T and a 74 TR5T then I would be going for this bike like a terrier down a rat hole.
I can say on a personal basis that Kurt is a good guy and a good bike mechanic.
I have bought two bikes from him and can vouch for his integrity.
HTH

Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #756753
11/21/18 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by kurt fischer
Originally Posted by Snap50
Love to have it but getting out of state vehicles without titles through our dmv is like pulling teeth.


Don't let that stop you!

As I understand it, you can register a vehicle in Vermont without being a Vermont resident. The forms and procedures are on line VT DMV. With that registration, you could get a title in MA, for example. That's what I'll do if I still have the bike come springtime. Not to mention the loophole method. grin


CT DMV is anything but resident friendly. And talk about attitude! Hopefully all that will change soon.

Last edited by Snap50; 11/21/18 5:21 pm.
Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #756754
11/21/18 5:42 pm
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Richard, aka Tridentman, thanks for the unsolicited testimonial beerchug

Both your TR5Ts are original, chrome fenders, turn signals ... don't you need another that you can bash around on? The fenders I'm planning to use are guaranteed unbreakable grin

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Snap50, I hear ya. The MA registry of motor vehicles (RMV) has improved quite a bit. Still, the RMV office closest to me, just 5 miles away, is so bad that I drive west 40 miles to a new one, all new staff, no attitude!


Kurt
1968-70-71 Triumph TR6R Bitsa - 1969 Triumph TR6R - 1971 BSA A65L - 1973 Triumph TR5T
2005 Ducati MTS 1000S DS - 2012 Ducati Hyper 796 - 2014 Kawasaki ZX1000
Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #756765
11/21/18 7:36 pm
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This is a very tempting offer .
I'm out of the office , till next spring .

Hey , just a little something ...
your description says
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Oils in it are Castrol 20-50 4T API SG dino, ATF “F” in the primary
... isnt this a primary breather ?

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Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #756769
11/21/18 8:24 pm
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quinten -- thank you -- my mistake in the description (my 650s all have separate primary oil). For the TR5T, same 20-50 in the primary, API SG, JASO MA2. Good catch.

"Out of the office" -- that's a good way to put it.


Kurt
1968-70-71 Triumph TR6R Bitsa - 1969 Triumph TR6R - 1971 BSA A65L - 1973 Triumph TR5T
2005 Ducati MTS 1000S DS - 2012 Ducati Hyper 796 - 2014 Kawasaki ZX1000
Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #756804
11/22/18 3:28 am
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Hi Kurt---I am in the middle of trying to solve my storage problem.
Also the akkers are a bit short in the bike fund at the moment.
A good buy for someone!

Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #757824
12/02/18 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by kurt fischer
Richard, aka Tridentman, thanks for the unsolicited testimonial beerchug

Both your TR5Ts are original, chrome fenders, turn signals ... don't you need another that you can bash around on? The fenders I'm planning to use are guaranteed unbreakable grin

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Snap50, I hear ya. The MA registry of motor vehicles (RMV) has improved quite a bit. Still, the RMV office closest to me, just 5 miles away, is so bad that I drive west 40 miles to a new one, all new staff, no attitude!


Those fenders look kinda awkward..

Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: r.bartlett] #757865
12/02/18 7:02 pm
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i think they can be cut down a little and still remain functional. depends on how one intends to use the machine.

Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #757889
12/02/18 9:17 pm
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"Awkward" is in the eye of the beholder ... and awkward is my goal smile

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However, those are just the fenders I will use if I keep the bike, my goals are lightweight and durable for trail riding. You, the buyer, can use whichever fenders you prefer beerchug

Last edited by kurt fischer; 12/03/18 10:40 pm.

Kurt
1968-70-71 Triumph TR6R Bitsa - 1969 Triumph TR6R - 1971 BSA A65L - 1973 Triumph TR5T
2005 Ducati MTS 1000S DS - 2012 Ducati Hyper 796 - 2014 Kawasaki ZX1000
Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #757978
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Is your TR5T sporting the original spark arrester? Those are getting hard to find.


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Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: GrandPaul] #757983
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Originally Posted by GrandPaul
That is a great price for a very nice "survivor" classic dual sport.

I can vouch for the VT system, I've done almost 20 bikes that way, zero issues ever.


Can you run 'us' through the procedure? I looked at the VT DMV site and saw there is an 'ABANDONED VEHICLE CERTIFICATION' title process. Is that what you used?

Sorry, not trying to hi-jack the thread - just need some info


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Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: dodgeboy57] #758019
12/03/18 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by dodgeboy57
Is your TR5T sporting the original spark arrester? Those are getting hard to find.


dodgeboy, thanks for your interest. Yes, the spark arrester is in place -- looks like the "short" one -- see my first pic in this thread. You will see it, however it looks to me that it is installed upside down, will need to be rotated 180 degrees, I think. HTH

As to getting a VT registration, grandpaul has started the following thread. I have never done it myself, but others here have gone that route many times from what I have read.
http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbt...-a-legal-vermont-registration#Post734627


Kurt
1968-70-71 Triumph TR6R Bitsa - 1969 Triumph TR6R - 1971 BSA A65L - 1973 Triumph TR5T
2005 Ducati MTS 1000S DS - 2012 Ducati Hyper 796 - 2014 Kawasaki ZX1000
Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: kurt fischer] #758277
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It is entirely possible to CALL the Vermont DMV in Montpelier and actually speak to a human. One of the critical requirements is an original (not a fax or any other sort of copy) bill of sale with the seller's signature. But I've titled a bike there myself and it's pretty easy. Any questions, don't hesitate to call- a human WILL answer the phone (or did last couple times I called up there). Vermont, bless their hearts, is quite happy to take your money.

OH BTW- they don't issue an actual "title" per se, for vehicles over a certain age. What they DO give you is a registration document. In my own case, this document was sufficient for me to transfer ownership into the PENNDOT system, and got me a title for the bike here at home- hassle free, very little effort and zero trouble. I kept the bike registered in Vermont for a year or so, as it happens. Not sure I "planned" it that way, that's just what I ended up doing. When I finally did go to transfer into PA, it was absolutely no problem.


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Re: 1973 Triumph TR5T [Re: dodgeboy57] #758297
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dodgeboy57,

Try this site. It is called Chin on the Tank and the article pretty much walks you through the process of registering a vehicle without a title.

http://www.chinonthetank.com/2014/04/get-a-title-with-a-vermont-registration/

Good Luck, Giovanni


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