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Not British, but certainly looks it #756291
11/16/18 7:15 pm
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Re: Not British, but certainly looks it [Re: J. Charles Smith] #756328
11/17/18 1:08 am
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He tells of everything except how it goes, handles and stops................The important stuff.


No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition................
Bring in the 'Comfy Chair'
Re: Not British, but certainly looks it [Re: J. Charles Smith] #756376
11/17/18 2:30 pm
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he built it, took it to a show, then sold it somebody for a museum piece, apparently. no dirt on the tires.

shame. looks like it would be a worthwhile ride.


"Are bikes so nice as all that?" asked the mole, shyly...

"Nice? They're the only thing," said the Water Rat Solemnly, as he leaned forward on the handlebars. "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about with bikes."
Re: Not British, but certainly looks it [Re: J. Charles Smith] #756400
11/17/18 7:04 pm
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Mr. LaFountain is certainly to be commended for his dedication, attention to detail, and vision. I'm not sure where I to land on this. On one hand it is a very custom bike, arguably a work of art, perhaps it should be in a museum. But on the other hand, it's a very custom bike, a race bike, a hybrid, to spend that much time, effort, and money only for display does seem a bit of a shame. I guess there are those who revel in the challenge of the build. And once complete are proud to have their work displayed. Then there are those who build to ride. Personally, I think it would be more satisfying to ride it to shows and rides to show it off and tell it's story. To each their own I suppose.

Re: Not British, but certainly looks it [Re: J. Charles Smith] #756444
11/18/18 2:19 am
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in america (elsewhere too, i suppose) there are lots of folks who build machines for just that--art. i remember this magnificent machine, in particular:

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gorgeous, inside and out. when asked whether the buyer would ride it, the builder said,

i hope not.

now, to me, that's a shame, because a motorcycle that doesn't move is a disappointment. but there are gun collectors who don't shoot their guns, car collectors who don't start their cars, and maybe even people who collect paintings who don't look at them, for all i know.

in the end, all of our cherished motorcycles are going to be rust and scrap metal, whether it's a DB34 or honda step-through. so their value is in what their current owner sees in them.



"Are bikes so nice as all that?" asked the mole, shyly...

"Nice? They're the only thing," said the Water Rat Solemnly, as he leaned forward on the handlebars. "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much worth doing as simply messing about with bikes."
Re: Not British, but certainly looks it [Re: J. Charles Smith] #757425
11/28/18 3:58 pm
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"now, to me, that's a shame, because a motorcycle that doesn't move is a disappointment. but there are gun collectors who don't shoot their guns, car collectors who don't start their cars, and maybe even people who collect paintings who don't look at them, for all i know.

in the end, all of our cherished motorcycles are going to be rust and scrap metal, whether it's a DB34 or honda step-through. so their value is in what their current owner sees in them."


Agreed

In the end..when I *Build a motorcycle for a ***customer, I know their intent. Whether they are riding, showing or looking for a tax write off I expect the bike to come back for service, crash repair or ****restoration back to where I left it
The best you can do is repair the machine with all the information you have and use all the tricks you know on every part.

I try using foresight in hopes that one day this machine will need another once over because of age, wear, abuse or what have you. Work according to this and the bike will be around forever.
Quickly grabbing the welder to fix a fail, the bondo to fill in a bodge or fabricating an item that makes service difficult or impossible is the first step to the machine being taken apart later on in life
- I rescue them all the time. Someones beloved chopper or cafe that was very lovingly built..left for dead because it was incorrectly assembled and too hard for the owner to repair. Now with me for scavenging.

Build them to be serviced...to handle a ham fisted rider and hopefully they will be ridden.
Make it a polished delicate flower and it will *****rot in a living room or garage just the same as outside in the elements..only much slower.

Definitions
* Build- The task of taking credit for the design work of another, specifically in cars and motorcycles (disassemble, fix, **modify and reassemble)
** Modify - The subjective changes made to a machine that may or may not improve it aesthetically and mechanically
*** Customer - The Boss
**** Restoration- To return back to factory original condition, flaws and all (no updates)
***** Rot- Decay, deterioration, oxidation - Dust attracts moisture, moisture creates oxidation, oxidation consumes metal. Rot happens when sitting, wear happens when riding!

My morning rant...Thanks for listening


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n+1=n
n = the number of motorcycles you currently own.

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Re: Not British, but certainly looks it [Re: J. Charles Smith] #757754
12/01/18 8:37 pm
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I rather liked the custom Kaw that started this thread, but admit that it's more for the craftsmanship than anything else. But then, none of its admirers will ever ride it. All it is for any of us is a sculpture to be lauded, vilified, and/or debated, just like any piece of art. For sure, from its permanent parking place on an ivory pedestal, it will give a little pleasure to the many people who get to see it rather than a lot of pleasure to a solitary owner who rode it. A not unreasonable trade-off, I'd say. The bottom line is that motorcycles are to be enjoyed in whatever way rocks your, uh, sidecar. I'd certainly rather ride it, too, but sometimes building a bike is its own reward, and sometimes it has to be. In my case, for instance, medical problems, including eyesight (seven eye operations), peripheral neuropathy, and other issues, have kept me from riding since 2005, and severely hampered my garage time, too. But despite the fact that I will probably never put a mile on, and maybe never finish building, my T140 cafe racer ("T140 Cafe Project, cont." thread), I still enjoy owning it. And that's just the way it is.

Re: Not British, but certainly looks it [Re: kevin roberts] #758534
12/07/18 10:32 pm
12/07/18 10:32 pm
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Central Virginia
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Originally Posted by kevin roberts

in the end, all of our cherished motorcycles are going to be rust and scrap metal, whether it's a DB34 or honda step-through. so their value is in what their current owner sees in them.



That's true about the "value" of a bike, but the value can change in an instant. A guy might think his ratty BSA is worth $4,000, but that's just a number that it's worth to HIM. You can call it the "value", but it could be $4,000 or $40,000 or $4,000,000 and still be the "value".

But then he sells it at auction, and it goes for $1,800. Suddenly the Value is $1,800, not a penny more or less. UNTIL the new owner decides that it's a rare collector bike and it's "worth" $6,000, and THAT'S suddenly the "value".

The only time the "value" of the bike intersects with reality is the moment it's sold - the buyer willingly hands over the money, the seller willingly takes the money, and you've actually got a number you can hang your hat on for a few minutes, anyway .... !!

Lannis


I stopped believing for a little while this morning. Journey is really going to be upset.


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