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First English RE's Sold In The USA? #751284
10/02/18 9:44 pm
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Anyone know the approx time when the first RE's where sold here in the USA? Perhaps New York? (English, not India RE)

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Re: First RE's Sold In The USA? [Re: C.B.S] #751397
10/03/18 4:58 pm
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If you are referring to the new Interceptor/Continental GT - I am not sure any have been sold yet. The model launch was last week in Santa Cruz CA. (How far is that from Lancaster CA?). The motorcycle press, from what I hear, is swamping the internet with reports and road test results. Also hearsay, the reports are very very positive and little in the way of complaints.
The closest dealer to me is Buffalo, a 2-1/2 hour drive on the Thruway. I'm on their mail list but haven't heard from them yet.
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Re: First RE's Sold In The USA? [Re: Al Eckstadt] #751422
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Originally Posted by Al Eckstadt
If you are referring to the new Interceptor/Continental GT - I am not sure any have been sold yet. The model launch was last week in Santa Cruz CA. (How far is that from Lancaster CA?). The motorcycle press, from what I hear, is swamping the internet with reports and road test results. Also hearsay, the reports are very very positive and little in the way of complaints.
The closest dealer to me is Buffalo, a 2-1/2 hour drive on the Thruway. I'm on their mail list but haven't heard from them yet.
Regards
Al



Thanks for comment, I should of clarify, "original" RE's during the 1940's I assume..

Although the new RE's sure do look nice

Re: First RE's Sold In The USA? [Re: C.B.S] #751511
10/04/18 4:51 pm
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Per David Blasco's blog, there's this snippet in a post about a J1 James Dean owned (briefly):

"I have a copy of original document that verifies the VIN as J2/7484, a 1951 Royal Enfield J2, 449cc. Purchased used on Nov. 30, 1953 from Marvin Carter of Carter Motors, Fairmount, Ind. for $395. Signed by James Dean."

So apparently as early as '51 they were for sale in Indiana. I suspect that this was due to arrangement Ralph Rogers of Indian had made with Brockhouse (the company in charge of importing REs into the US). If my memory serves me, this arrangement was made in between '49 and '51, which means they were likely imported into MA, then distributed to the fortunate (though, likely, unwilling) Indian dealers across the country. Indian's dealer network was shrinking at this time, but still sizable enough to assume there would be a dealer in nearly every state.

Anything pre '49 would have had to have been a private import, I suspect.

Just my hypothesizing...
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Re: First RE's Sold In The USA? [Re: Pender] #751579
10/05/18 5:15 am
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Originally Posted by Pender
Per David Blasco's blog, there's this snippet in a post about a J1 James Dean owned (briefly):

"I have a copy of original document that verifies the VIN as J2/7484, a 1951 Royal Enfield J2, 449cc. Purchased used on Nov. 30, 1953 from Marvin Carter of Carter Motors, Fairmount, Ind. for $395. Signed by James Dean."

So apparently as early as '51 they were for sale in Indiana. I suspect that this was due to arrangement Ralph Rogers of Indian had made with Brockhouse (the company in charge of importing REs into the US). If my memory serves me, this arrangement was made in between '49 and '51, which means they were likely imported into MA, then distributed to the fortunate (though, likely, unwilling) Indian dealers across the country. Indian's dealer network was shrinking at this time, but still sizable enough to assume there would be a dealer in nearly every state.

Anything pre '49 would have had to have been a private import, I suspect.

Just my hypothesizing...
-J



Very interesting, my Fathers RE J1 is 1946, I could assume it's been here in the states since then? I couldn't see why anyone would import it but who knows!


If it has been here and there is proof, I suppose that will push 1951 back to 1946 or 1947

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Re: First RE's Sold In The USA? [Re: C.B.S] #751580
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Correction, my pops said he has the info from the RE club stating that this bike was shipped to the Whitehall company in NY...

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Re: First RE's Sold In The USA? [Re: C.B.S] #752192
10/10/18 4:09 pm
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That's really cool. I bet it was Reggie Pink, then. He was out of White Plains, NY, and started importing Brits (I thought only BSA and Triumph, but he must've done more than just those) in the '20s. It's very cool to have an original Reggie bike. Can't be many of those left!!!
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Re: First RE's Sold In The USA? [Re: Pender] #752220
10/10/18 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Pender
That's really cool. I bet it was Reggie Pink, then. He was out of White Plains, NY, and started importing Brits (I thought only BSA and Triumph, but he must've done more than just those) in the '20s. It's very cool to have an original Reggie bike. Can't be many of those left!!!
-J




Thanks for the interest and great info! I'll post some photos soon

Re: First RE's Sold In The USA? [Re: C.B.S] #752357
10/11/18 7:23 pm
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Sort of related,... Alp just linked this on his FB page,

A pure pursuit of speed- Royal Enfield at Bonneville Salt Flats, 2018
https://youtu.be/jPiqFH5wLZ0

157.053 mph

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Re: First RE's Sold In The USA? [Re: kurt fischer] #752358
10/11/18 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by kurt fischer
Sort of related,... Alp just linked this on his FB page,

A pure pursuit of speed- Royal Enfield at Bonneville Salt Flats, 2018
https://youtu.be/jPiqFH5wLZ0

157.053 mph



Thanks Kurt

Re: First RE's Sold In The USA? [Re: C.B.S] #752385
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that is a monumental speed on a naked 750.


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Re: First RE's Sold In The USA? [Re: C.B.S] #752738
10/14/18 3:17 pm
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I have been asking around, to find the answer to the original question of first RE import to USA. The REOC is not in possession of all the records prior to the late 1920's. From memory, the earliest records are in the possession of another club (VMCC?) and rest in a museum. You could hunt down the answer - I am interested, but simply do not have time. The date of "first export/import in the REOC's records" was not offered, perhaps for the same reason as mine. You could join the REOC for cheap, and ask yourself. First export/import to USA could well be prior to 1914.


The written material I have seen is nearly all written in England. An interesting viewpoint, developing the import markets - Europe, Canada, the Middle East, Africa: and South America, Oz and NZ to balance seasonal use in the northern hemisphere to constant production in England. A wide open topic for anyone inclined to research and write....



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