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Norton Villiers and the AMC factories ? #750961
09/29/18 9:30 pm
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When the AMC empire folded circa 1966, what became of the James factory ?

The AMC empire included names like Francis Barnett and James.
FB of Coventry had been moved in with James of Greet (suburb of Birmingham) circa 1961 ? and they became badge engineered twins.
What became of the Francis Barnett factory ?

When the AMC empire folded circa 1966, what became of the James factory ?
It contained many automatic machine tools lathes etc that produced nuts bolts small fittings for the AMC range, (inc Nortons ?)
Where the machines moved to NV in the old Villiers factory in Wolverhampton, or did Villiers already have such machines, so they were sold off.
As was the factory ?

Also, just curious, were the Jubilee Navigator and Electra assembled in Greet, or did they just produce components for assembly in Plumstead.
- The smaller lightweight Norton engines were basically slotted into James(like) frames and cycleparts.

A very old pic of the Greet factory - may be more bicycle factory ?
Anyone been there lately, or know what happened to it ?
History seems to be rather silent on this subject...

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Re: Norton Villiers and the AMC factories ? [Re: Rohan] #750963
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Also, AMC had acquired the Sunbeam motorcycle name in the late 1930s
(reputedly to learn the secret of their beautiful enamelwork,
Sunbeam had been in the japanning business since the late 1600s).
Did this deal include the factory ?

AMC sold Sunbeams to BSA during the war years, and postwar the S7 and S8 Sunbeams appeared.
Were they built at Small Heath, or in the old Sunbeam factory ?

Such matters seem tough to resolve with the printed material available... ?

And finally, with the formation of NVT in the 70s, did this again include the Sunbeam factory under their umbrella,
or had it been disposed of already ??

Hmmm, wiki sez they were built in Redditch. How did that come about ?

Re: Norton Villiers and the AMC factories ? [Re: Rohan] #750989
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That's a somewhat fanciful view (if it's supposed to be Gough Road) as the canal is nowhere near it.....

What I believe to be the old factory site is now a warehouse / distribution centre as so many old factories have become.

There is actually a James Road not far away (the site of the current Birmingham City Council recycling centre) and I wonder if the factory was ever there as that does in fact back onto the cut.

Last edited by iansoady; 09/30/18 9:33 am.

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Re: Norton Villiers and the AMC factories ? [Re: Rohan] #751035
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The earlier factory apparently was on the canal - Sampson Rd has been mentioned - as a bicycle maker.
Here we go.
Would the factory be at the end of Gough Rd ?
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0438.htm

Finding a view of the James works in recent times wasn't as easy as I thought it might have been.
It could well be in a brochure or similar, but not found its way onto the 'net, yet ?
Considering how long it ran, there must be photos of it...


Re: Norton Villiers and the AMC factories ? [Re: Rohan] #751050
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http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0438.htm


That link usefully contains a plan of the factory works. (although some time back !)
Oh that that was included in every marques history account, it gives looking at the (often) jumble of factory photos so much more meaning...

Re: Norton Villiers and the AMC factories ? [Re: Rohan] #751079
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