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Thunderwing back on the road Forgiveness required #746982
08/28/18 3:57 am
08/28/18 3:57 am
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Crikey. its been since October!!

Forgive me - I have put modern materials in the 71 Thunderbolt.

Whats been done:

Head rebuilt by Ed V - New hardened seats to go with my Black diamond valves.
- Intake manifold ported for a 32mm carb.
- Steel inserts installed in the exhaust ports. (This is a really NICE mod. The pipes slip in and don't leak!)

Cylinder barrel - Nicasil liner installed by USCHROME in Wisconson to match ......
- 9-1 angled deck pistons with chrome top ring from Ed V.

Carb - New 32mm Premier AMAL Mk1. - 250 main jet
- 106 needle jet
- 20 idle jet
- needle clip in second groove.
- NGK BP7ES plugs.

Trying to get some longevity out of the top end for long trips.
Primary is still a QPD belt drive with a Norton still clutch and Barnett plates cut to fit. I need to look but I think I've got about 20k on the original belt.

Thing pulls like a freight train - really impressive and smooth - no flatspots while accelerating. And the sound is more like the Firebird above 5000 rpms coming on the main jet. thumbsup



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Re: Thunderwing back on the road Forgiveness required [Re: Semper Gumby] #747013
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Curious as to what happens to your fuel mileage, Bill.


69 A65T
71 B50T
85 K100RS
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69 B44VS
71 A65FS
95 Trident
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Re: Thunderwing back on the road Forgiveness required [Re: Semper Gumby] #747031
08/28/18 8:10 pm
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I think that's a great way to subtly update an A65 for long trips. Proper carburetor, no real changes to the appearance, but taking advantage of modern materials and techniques and people who know what they're doing.

It'll be great to see that bike on the road again along with the old "Star" and the Triple. BSA Heaven, that's what you're in! No apologies required to ANYone!

Lannis


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Re: Thunderwing back on the road Forgiveness required [Re: No Name Man] #747046
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Originally Posted by No Name Man
Curious as to what happens to your fuel mileage, Bill.


The Lizard brain cares NOT for fuel mileage.

The more modern version of my brain is also curious.


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Re: Thunderwing back on the road Forgiveness required [Re: Semper Gumby] #747067
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Originally Posted by Semper Gumby

Steel inserts installed in the exhaust ports. (This is a really NICE mod. The pipes slip in and don't leak!)



Very, very interesting. Can you please expand on how this is achieved and post some pics ?


Jon W.


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Re: Thunderwing back on the road Forgiveness required [Re: Semper Gumby] #747112
08/29/18 11:02 am
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Good on you! See you in about a month....

Re: Thunderwing back on the road Forgiveness required [Re: Jon W. Whitley] #747173
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Originally Posted by Jon W. Whitley
Originally Posted by Semper Gumby

Steel inserts installed in the exhaust ports. (This is a really NICE mod. The pipes slip in and don't leak!)



Very, very interesting. Can you please expand on how this is achieved and post some pics ?


With 61,000 miles on them, and without me asking, Ed said that my exhaust ports were beat up pretty badly. I was having problems getting the LH one to seal properly . My solution was to cram beer can shims and RTV between the head and the pipe. So he suggested steel inserts pressed into the exhaust ports with a snug clearance (10 thou) to make em snug again.
I said heck yeah. My stock pipes slipped in nicely I sealed up with some GE5050 aluminum RTV and WALLA - no leaky ports.

I believe Ed bored the exhaust ports so the the steel inserts (sleeves) would interference fit with the head. But you can call him.
Ed V does quality work and will tell me if I'm barking up the wrong tree. I really appreciate Ed V.

Everything is buttoned up at the moment.

Last edited by Semper Gumby; 08/29/18 8:15 pm.

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Re: Thunderwing back on the road Forgiveness required [Re: Semper Gumby] #775577
06/04/19 1:00 am
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Originally Posted by Semper Gumby
Crikey. its been since October!!

Forgive me - I have put modern materials in the 71 Thunderbolt.

Whats been done:

Head rebuilt by Ed V - New hardened seats to go with my Black diamond valves.
- Intake manifold ported for a 32mm carb.
- Steel inserts installed in the exhaust ports. (This is a really NICE mod. The pipes slip in and don't leak!)

Cylinder barrel - Nicasil liner installed by USCHROME in Wisconson to match ......
- 9-1 angled deck pistons with chrome top ring from Ed V.

Carb - New 32mm Premier AMAL Mk1. - 250 main jet
- 106 needle jet
- 20 idle jet
- needle clip in second groove.
- NGK BP7ES plugs.

Trying to get some longevity out of the top end for long trips.
Primary is still a QPD belt drive with a Norton still clutch and Barnett plates cut to fit. I need to look but I think I've got about 20k on the original belt.

Thing pulls like a freight train - really impressive and smooth - no flatspots while accelerating. And the sound is more like the Firebird above 5000 rpms coming on the main jet. thumbsup



Now this was only about 10 months or so ago that all these nice mods done by well known experts in the field were done.

I refuse to believe (it's easy, trust me!) that something seriously bad has gone wrong with any of these mods in this short time.

Report when you can ....

Lannis


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Re: Thunderwing back on the road Forgiveness required [Re: Semper Gumby] #775706
06/05/19 6:05 pm
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I too am curious as to the "noise" on the recent TSMR
Glad you got home without problems. Any input, comments on the Triple you rode?

Re: Thunderwing back on the road Forgiveness required [Re: Semper Gumby] #775743
06/06/19 4:52 am
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Originally Posted by Semper Gumby
Crikey. its been since October!!

Forgive me - I have put modern materials in the 71 Thunderbolt.

Whats been done:

Head rebuilt by Ed V - New hardened seats to go with my Black diamond valves.
- Intake manifold ported for a 32mm carb.
- Steel inserts installed in the exhaust ports. (This is a really NICE mod. The pipes slip in and don't leak!)

Cylinder barrel - Nicasil liner installed by USCHROME in Wisconson to match ......
- 9-1 angled deck pistons with chrome top ring from Ed V.

Carb - New 32mm Premier AMAL Mk1. - 250 main jet
- 106 needle jet
- 20 idle jet
- needle clip in second groove.
- NGK BP7ES plugs.

Trying to get some longevity out of the top end for long trips.
Primary is still a QPD belt drive with a Norton still clutch and Barnett plates cut to fit. I need to look but I think I've got about 20k on the original belt.

Thing pulls like a freight train - really impressive and smooth - no flatspots while accelerating. And the sound is more like the Firebird above 5000 rpms coming on the main jet. thumbsup


So now you have the bike which BSA should have built in the first place. I assume that it has been modified to oil properly like a Triumph, maybe even filtered like your triple.


Stepping on others doesn't make you stand tall.

71 A65L "Zelda"
92 BMW K100rs "Gustav"
72 T120V cafe project "Mr. Jim"
72 T150V "Wotan"

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