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kyle malenky's beautiful LSR triumph #745058
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https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/blog...p;mc_eid=1fb632eeb9#sthash.ubcyXIzM.dpbs

kyle malenky, brother of lowbrow custom's tyle malenky, has rebuilt a beautiful triumph LSR machine and is on the salt at bonneville as i write, i believe. lots of pictures at the lowbrow site. lots of work went into the construction of this machine.

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Re: kyle malenky's beautiful LSR triumph [Re: kevin roberts] #745100
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Very nice ......On my 650 lSR bike ,exhaust turnouts like seen on the this bike cost 2 mph.....My money says in a heads up race, the Three Amigos (you me and Tom) would be the winners....


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you can't knock it for a beautiful machine, though. by comparison, mine looks like it was built after work in a barn with hammers and prybars.

which it was, after all.

go through his pictures. he's taken a lot of good advice along the way, but his bike runs in altered, so it's not directly comparable to the stock-framed stuff we all run.

i'm looking for 17-inch 250 ninja wheels. no junkyards near me, though:

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Re: kyle malenky's beautiful LSR triumph [Re: kevin roberts] #745141
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I was here a couple of weeks ago.
They have a large collection of wheels.
https://www.sutersspeedshop.com/salvage-yard

Re: kyle malenky's beautiful LSR triumph [Re: kevin roberts] #745155
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Kevin, for used wheels, maybe check out Powerhouse Cycle Salvage in Leominster MA
https://www.facebook.com/powerhousecyclesalvage/

86 Lancaster St
Leominster, MA
(978) 537-0705

Might not be too far off your route to/from Loring.

(Funny thing -- out riding the Multistrada today, I passed within a couple miles of the place.)

BTW -- looking less likely that I will be going to Loring frown


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Re: kyle malenky's beautiful LSR triumph [Re: kevin roberts] #745169
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Kevin, there's a large indoor Japanese bike salvage yard two miles from my house.... You drove by it when you stopped here

Japanese salvage

I'm not knocking the Lowbrow bike, just backing up guys I know.... grin First time my bike ran at Ohio was a 118...cut off the turnouts at the advice of a dirt track car guy...and it ran a 120...


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Originally Posted by franko
I was here a couple of weeks ago.


Originally Posted by kurt fischer
Kevin, for used wheels, maybe check out Powerhouse Cycle Salvage in Leominster MA


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Kevin, there's a large indoor Japanese bike salvage yard two miles from my house.... You drove by it when you stopped here



thanks. now my cups runneth over. i need to start measuring and making some phone calls. the ninja tires are Front: 110/70-17M/C Rear: 130/70-17M/C, and the standard triumph tires are something like 3.5x19 and 4.00 or 4.10x 18. i think thats as close as i'm likely to get.


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Originally Posted by Hillbilly bike
I'm not knocking the Lowbrow bike, just backing up guys I know.... grin First time my bike ran at Ohio was a 118...cut off the turnouts at the advice of a dirt track car guy...and it ran a 120...


obviously we haven't seen it run in this configuration, but i'm inclined to agree that a lot of work went into making it show-worthy, and not necessarilly into making it faster. he's running the same RC Components front wheel as alp sungertekin ($1700 or so . . . ), but with a goodyear eagle instead of the hoosier that alp runs (IIRC). breather off the crank timing hole, what looks like a tri-spark ignition, single plug head, newby clutch, total loss ignition, drilled timing gears, the same tarozzi rearsets and NHK damper i use, and lots and lots of fasteners sticking into the wind. aerodynamically, it looks very busy.

the compression ratio is very high, but i have no idea what headwork or cams he's using, and he has Concentric carbs and an apparently untested exhaust length. i'm no expert, but my bike lives or dies on the traditional parameters: headwork, exhaust length, carburation, cam timing, and jets. so i'll be very interested to see what he makes it do. i figure whatever he does at bonneville will be 8 or 10 mph slower than what he could do at loring, but i'm just guessing.


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Re: kyle malenky's beautiful LSR triumph [Re: kevin roberts] #745176
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Chris Blown Income said he ran sightly faster at Bonneville than Ohio on his A10...i think if the salt is smooth and the engine runs ok,, about a 5-7 mph difference at the speeds we run... but who knows?

I'm having a sit down with Lyjha next week....I want to run the 650 Triumph, with appropriate changes, in altered class and take it to El Mirage...He has to pay for it... wink


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Originally Posted by kurt fischer

BTW -- looking less likely that I will be going to Loring frown



bummer!

still looking for a pit crew for that, then


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Re: kyle malenky's beautiful LSR triumph [Re: Hillbilly bike] #745342
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly bike

I'm having a sit down with Lyjha next week....I want to run the 650 Triumph, with appropriate changes, in altered class and take it to El Mirage...He has to pay for it... wink


i missed this. are you going to build a frame? your motor is already awesome.

el mirage is throwing down the glove. alp runs 131.332 at el mirage in 650cc A-PG, and 139.226 in 650cc A-VG.

you've already done way better than 131 in M-PG, with the OIF setups you've been using.

come on. enquiring minds want to know.


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Same engine with a few changes.. same frame with a few changes...By rules, an altered bikes must have several design features not in common with a modified bike...I believe if a bike runs 135-137 mph on pavement at 1000 foot elevation, it may be able to run 133 at 2800 feet at El mirage..


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well, loring has an elevation of around 600 feet, and so the absolute air density is about 98 percent of what it is at sea level.

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if el mirage is 2800 feet, then the air density would be about 92 percent of sea level. same temperature, humidity, and so on.

92/98 is 94 percent, so that's the difference in the oxygen the motor can see, assuming the tune is optimized for the different densities, so that's a non-negotiable decrease in potential horsepower of 6 percent, going from loring to el mirage.

but i'm not smart enough to figure out how that might affect speed in the mile. sure, the max horsepower will be down, but so will the air resistance, by more or less the same proportions, i think. which has the greatest effect? looking at things like 50cc streamliners that go 145 mph, it's obvious that wind resistance is more important than horsepower:

https://youtu.be/Df8XVdKbiLA

^^^this guy isn't normally aspirated, but he's still only got 50 cc.


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Originally Posted by Hillbilly bike
Chris Blown Income said he ran sightly faster at Bonneville than Ohio on his A10...i think if the salt is smooth and the engine runs ok,, about a 5-7 mph difference at the speeds we run... but who knows?

I'm having a sit down with Lyjha next week....I want to run the 650 Triumph, with appropriate changes, in altered class and take it to El Mirage...He has to pay for it... wink

Yes I did, 2mph faster than my best of 118.xxx mph at Wilmington. Having an extra 2 miles to work on the tuck helps out.

Actually listening to the Speedweek broadcast now, really need to go back.


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Originally Posted by Hillbilly bike
Same engine with a few changes.. same frame with a few changes...By rules, an altered bikes must have several design features not in common with a modified bike...I believe if a bike runs 135-137 mph on pavement at 1000 foot elevation, it may be able to run 133 at 2800 feet at El mirage..

I'm sure the dust from the lake bed doesn't help either


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Originally Posted by kevin roberts
Originally Posted by Hillbilly bike
I'm not knocking the Lowbrow bike, just backing up guys I know.... grin First time my bike ran at Ohio was a 118...cut off the turnouts at the advice of a dirt track car guy...and it ran a 120...


obviously we haven't seen it run in this configuration, but i'm inclined to agree that a lot of work went into making it show-worthy, and not necessarilly into making it faster. he's running the same RC Components front wheel as alp sungertekin ($1700 or so . . . ), but with a goodyear eagle instead of the hoosier that alp runs (IIRC). breather off the crank timing hole, what looks like a tri-spark ignition, single plug head, newby clutch, total loss ignition, drilled timing gears, the same tarozzi rearsets and NHK damper i use, and lots and lots of fasteners sticking into the wind. aerodynamically, it looks very busy.

the compression ratio is very high, but i have no idea what headwork or cams he's using, and he has concentric carbs and an apparently untested exhaust length. i'm no expert, but my bike lives or dies on the traditional parameters: headwork, exhaust length, carburation, cam timing, and jets. so i'll be very interested to see what he makes it do. i figure whatever he does at bonneville will be 8 or 10 mph slower than what he could do at loring, but i'm just guessing.

looking at the run logs, they have only ran 3x's so far with incomplete passes each time, maybe shaking the bugs out?


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Re: kyle malenky's beautiful LSR triumph [Re: kevin roberts] #745403
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maybe so. i always run slow at first to see what is going to fall off and whether my various weird changes still let me ride the bike.


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"looking at the run logs, they have only ran 3x's so far with incomplete passes each time, maybe shaking the bugs out?"

Trying to shake out the bugs at Bonneville can be frustrating because of the long wait between runs. The temperature changes, the wind can change, the density altitude can change, the bike cools off, the rider gets tired. That is why pavement events like Loring are so worthwhile where we can make multiple runs in relatively short periods of time. I can usually make predictable runs right off the trailer at Bonneville with just a drop of one size main jet, while others struggle to even get thru the course. And my speeds are almost identical to those at Loring in spite of the 4400 foot elevation vs. 700 at Loring.

It's interesting to go to the SCAT-BNI website and check the daily runs to see how many runs are turn-outs or not as expected. But Tyler has been there before and will probably get the new bike in the groove before it's over so keep tuned.

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tyler has been busy with his own bike.

[Linked Image]

i think this is what he's running out there:

[Linked Image]

i'm just guessing that it's the same motor.

alp has changed what naked LSR bikes look like. but they're all running in altered. nobody out there is working with a production frame.


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Second photo looks like it can get the job done..


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i'm scrutinizing the run logs. tyler did a fastest of 125.128 on sunday. can't find kyle, ATM.

alp is there at 144. 452, on his sit-down streamliner.

http://www.scta-bni.org/sw-race-results.html


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Today, the run logs says Alp ran a 178 with his APS nitro fuel 650


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how would your double do on nitromethane?

maybe you would need to find a sponsor for pistons first.


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Originally Posted by kevin roberts
how would your double do on nitromethane?

maybe you would need to find a sponsor for pistons first.


.....My original plan was nitrous oxide ...but it became too complicated building my own injection, providing for extra fuel and ignition timing retarding when the nitrous is injected.. The nitro is less BS but there's the carb issues with nitro because it needs high flow rates....And unscheduled disassembly risk....And then there's the money factor..


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there's way too much fiddling on nitromethane. blending the fuel, starting on alcohol, and then trying to use up the nitro without hydraulic locking the motor. alp has mentioned at least once melting his pistons because he forgot to re-jet. in the end, it just doesn't interest me. bottles and nitro will let you go faster, sure, but if just going faster was the point i'd be in the market for a ZX-14 and not messing with old british twins.

but you might experiment with oxygenated fuel.


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