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71 A65 Firebird centre stand #741355
07/10/18 2:50 am
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Hey everyone, just about got a rolling chassis on my 71 A65FS. As it didn't have a centre stand when purchased, I got hold of an old re inforced OIF centre stand from a Police T120 as centre stands are a bit thin to the acre down here. After a bit of surgery removing and blending the re inforcing, I tried fitting it today and it's all wrong. The machined flats on the stand that butt up against the frame lugs are way to low and allow the stand to over pitch to far forward. Who would have thought that they made a special stand for the police models. Any centre stand gurus out there who can advise on this. Cheers, Stu


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Re: 71 A65 Firebird centre stand [Re: Mito] #742434
07/19/18 11:35 am
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Not quite sure if this will answer your question, but when on centre stand, the OIF is back end heavy (stand too far forward... probably becasue of the long swing arm) so all OIF (A65's at least) will sit with the front wheel off the ground.


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Re: 71 A65 Firebird centre stand [Re: Mito] #742438
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My 71 came with no C stand, i fitted a later T140 type , it was about an inch too long, had it shortened and it works fine. As for balance, pretty much depends on fuel load, I can remove either wheel easily, if the tank is full and I am working at the front I put a weightt on the back of the seat to bring the front up, as soon as the front wheel is dropped the balance weight is unnecessary.. Dunno anything about police stands. it could be the stand mounts are bent? maybe you could add a couple of lumps to the stand stops to stop overtravel? its a bit grimy under there, HTH

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Re: 71 A65 Firebird centre stand [Re: Mito] #742442
07/19/18 12:33 pm
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I think its the over travel why these stands start getting bent. On my friends I/we built the frame stops up with weld (dressed it properly) then fitted a T120 centre stand. works really nice now.


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Re: 71 A65 Firebird centre stand [Re: Mito] #743110
07/25/18 2:57 pm
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My T'bolt stand goes way over and is too tall (as in difficult to deploy) also.

But then again it may have been a "Safety Feature" in that the bike has a "Reverse Gear" when you blip the throttle while it's on the center stand!

TG


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Re: 71 A65 Firebird centre stand [Re: gavin eisler] #745907
08/18/18 6:31 am
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Thanks for the responses guys. The stand on mine pitches so far forward that the foot lever is lower than the stand and fouls the ground. Looks like I will have to reprofile the stops to bring it all back up. It is unusual as the stand showed no signs of wear.


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04 Buell Firebolt
08 Buell Ulysses
1974 Honda SL 125
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Re: 71 A65 Firebird centre stand [Re: Mito] #745927
08/18/18 12:43 pm
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"Over-travel" is a problem with pre-unit Triumph center stands as well.

I have welded up and re-profiled the stops on them to get them more "vertical" in use, and it works.
Now iIt'a also easier to get the bike OFF the stand,


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