BritBike Forum logo
BritBike Sponsor BritBike Sponsor BritBike Sponsor
BritBike Sponsor

BritBike Sponsor

BritBike Sponsor
BritBike Sponsor BritBike Sponsor BritBike Sponsor
JWood Auctions JRC Engineering dealers JWood Auctions
Home | Sponsors, Newsletter | Regalia | Calendar | Bike Project | BritBike Museum | Spiders Cartoons, "OLD" BritBike Forum | DVD- Manuals & Parts books | BritBike Stickers & Decals
Upgrade to: Premium Membership | Premium Life Membership | Vendor Membership | Site Sponsor Membership
Member Spotlight
dakota
dakota
Belgium
Posts: 122
Joined: August 2006
Show All Member Profiles 
Shout Box
Search eBay for motorcycle parts in following countries
Australia, Canada, France, Holland, Italy, United Kingdom, USA
Random Gallery photo
Who's Online Now
33 registered members (BeezaBryan), 204 guests, and 406 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Nomdegom, Andy Mac, kwbikr, RandomTask, George Henstorf
10379 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
Mori55 94
NickL 85
Stuart 83
DavidP 79
reverb 73
Triless 68
Popular Topics(Views)
687,970 mail-order LSR
Forum Statistics
Forums34
Topics67,995
Posts661,431
Members10,379
Most Online3,995
Feb 13th, 2017
Like BritBike.com on Facebook

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE #741199
07/08/18 7:12 pm
07/08/18 7:12 pm
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 228
Illinois
Spitfire Ken Offline OP

BritBike Forum member
Spitfire Ken  Offline OP

BritBike Forum member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 228
Illinois
WHO MAKES A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE FOR A LIGHTNING CLUBMAN? THE REPRO ON MY BIKE INTEREFERES WITH THE SPEEDO CABLE.


I APOLOGIZE FOR THE USE OF CAPS. I CAN ONLY TYPE WITH MY RIGHT HAND SO USING THE SHIFT KEY IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITES.

The Devil is in the details.

1957 BSA A10 Spitfire Scrambler (numbers matching, very correct, very nice condition)
1965 BSA A65 Lightning Rocket "Clubman" (restored)
1966 BSA A65 Spitfire MK-II (restored)
1967 BSA A65 West Coast Hornet (under rstoration)
2001 Kawasaki W650
Support your #1 BSA Forum and our favorite sponsors

Check out BSA on e-bay: BSA Parts in UK, BSA Motorcycles in UK, BSA Parts in North America, BSA Motorcycles in North America

 
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #741203
07/08/18 7:55 pm
07/08/18 7:55 pm
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,160
Lancaster, California
C.B.S Offline

Parts Dealer
C.B.S  Offline

Parts Dealer
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,160
Lancaster, California
PHOTOS?

Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #741216
07/08/18 10:02 pm
07/08/18 10:02 pm
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 278
UK
V
VicCyclone Offline
BritBike Forum member
VicCyclone  Offline
BritBike Forum member
V
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 278
UK
It looks right to me. I think your speedo cable is too short. Try a slightly longer one and clip it to the frame tube further down to keep it away from the pipe.


VicCyclone

1965 A50 Cyclone Clubman
1966 Victor GP
1967 Victor Special
1968 Victor Special
1968 A65L

2009 HD FXDC
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #741362
07/10/18 5:05 am
07/10/18 5:05 am
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,497
Orygone
Boomer Offline

BritBike Forum member
Boomer  Offline

BritBike Forum member
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,497
Orygone
What are you looking at Vic? I don't see any photo(s) or link.


Bill B...


Boomer
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Boomer] #741493
07/11/18 11:17 am
07/11/18 11:17 am
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 278
UK
V
VicCyclone Offline
BritBike Forum member
VicCyclone  Offline
BritBike Forum member
V
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 278
UK


VicCyclone

1965 A50 Cyclone Clubman
1966 Victor GP
1967 Victor Special
1968 Victor Special
1968 A65L

2009 HD FXDC
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #741539
07/11/18 7:06 pm
07/11/18 7:06 pm
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,497
Orygone
Boomer Offline

BritBike Forum member
Boomer  Offline

BritBike Forum member
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,497
Orygone
Ah, thank you Vic.


Bill B...


Boomer
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: VicCyclone] #741544
07/11/18 7:24 pm
07/11/18 7:24 pm
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 228
Illinois
Spitfire Ken Offline OP

BritBike Forum member
Spitfire Ken  Offline OP

BritBike Forum member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 228
Illinois
IT'S A OPTICAL DILLUSUTION LOL. THERE IS NOT ENOUGHT ROOM TO BEND THE CABLE ENOUGH SO PIPE DOES NOT BURN THE CABLE. I HAVE INULATED THE CABLE AND BRAIDE IT. BUT I AM STILL NOT HAPPY. I NEED A SET OF PIPES THE MERGE TOGETHER LOWER. ALL OF THE REPROS I HAVE SEEN SEEM TO PRESENT THERE SAME ISSUE.


I APOLOGIZE FOR THE USE OF CAPS. I CAN ONLY TYPE WITH MY RIGHT HAND SO USING THE SHIFT KEY IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITES.

The Devil is in the details.

1957 BSA A10 Spitfire Scrambler (numbers matching, very correct, very nice condition)
1965 BSA A65 Lightning Rocket "Clubman" (restored)
1966 BSA A65 Spitfire MK-II (restored)
1967 BSA A65 West Coast Hornet (under rstoration)
2001 Kawasaki W650
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #741545
07/11/18 7:33 pm
07/11/18 7:33 pm
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,240
Bolton Lancs UK
A
Andy Higham Offline
BritBike Forum member
Andy Higham  Offline
BritBike Forum member
A
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,240
Bolton Lancs UK
BSA didn't pay enough attention to details like that. The Gold Star tacho cable runs with next to no clearance to the exhaust. On my B31 (goldie rep) I rotated the drive 90 degrees and routed the cable over the engine


BSA B31 500cc "Stargazer"
Greeves 200cc "Blue Meanie"
Greeves 350
Greeves 360 Challenger
Suzuki GSX1100 EFE "Sorcerers Apprentice"
GM500cc sprint/LSR bike "Deofol"
Jawa 500cc "Llareggub"
2003 Aprilia RSV Mille "Lo Stregone"
'35 OK Supreme
'36 OK Supreme
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #741575
07/12/18 1:20 am
07/12/18 1:20 am
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,099
Stone Creek OH USA
R
Rich B Offline

BritBike Forum member
Rich B  Offline

BritBike Forum member
R
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 5,099
Stone Creek OH USA
It is actually the tach cable interferes. With 2 different 2-1 pipes I have personally been involved with, both had issues.

The 2-1 pipes were originally fitted to single carb bikes without a tach drive. Clearance became a problem with the use of the 2-1 pipes on bikes with tach drive, like a Clubman.

On a bike meant to be ridden, my solution isn’t very elegant but makes room. It involves a hammer with a curved face meant for straightening dents in sheet metal.......

Just say’in.


Life is too short to drink cheap, bad beer.
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #741580
07/12/18 2:05 am
07/12/18 2:05 am
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 814
Brisbane, Australia
BrizzoBrit Offline

Life member
BrizzoBrit  Offline

Life member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 814
Brisbane, Australia
What Rich says (minus the hammer) for me. Get an amoured one


http://www.vintagebritishcables.com/Smiths-Speedometer-Cable-SmithsTachometer-Cable.php

Small burn mark on the armour, otherwise all good. To make it clear involves a very (too) sharp bend in my mind.

Ray


BSA 1969 A65F
BSA 1966 A65H
Triumph 1968 T120
Kawasaki A1R
& too many projects!
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #741618
07/12/18 12:03 pm
07/12/18 12:03 pm
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 228
Illinois
Spitfire Ken Offline OP

BritBike Forum member
Spitfire Ken  Offline OP

BritBike Forum member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 228
Illinois
Thanks for the info. I have access to a braiding machine and I braided the cable. I just assumed that my pipes were incorrect and not just a bad design.


I APOLOGIZE FOR THE USE OF CAPS. I CAN ONLY TYPE WITH MY RIGHT HAND SO USING THE SHIFT KEY IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITES.

The Devil is in the details.

1957 BSA A10 Spitfire Scrambler (numbers matching, very correct, very nice condition)
1965 BSA A65 Lightning Rocket "Clubman" (restored)
1966 BSA A65 Spitfire MK-II (restored)
1967 BSA A65 West Coast Hornet (under rstoration)
2001 Kawasaki W650
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #742429
07/19/18 10:50 am
07/19/18 10:50 am
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,946
Rotherham - S. Yorkshire
Allan Gill Offline

BritBike Forum member
Allan Gill  Offline

BritBike Forum member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,946
Rotherham - S. Yorkshire
My original clubmans one merges much lower than any of the aftermarket ones, In the end I made my own using the original as a copy (The original needs re-choming and I wasnt prepared to chop it to make the pipe I wanted.... So made my own) My own version isnt quite as low as it should be but is still much better than anything aftermarket you will buy.

I'll see if I can find my thread with the photos....


Found it

Click this link it goes from about half way down and possibly onto the next page.

Last edited by Allan Gill; 07/19/18 10:54 am. Reason: added link

beerchug
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Allan Gill] #742555
07/20/18 11:14 am
07/20/18 11:14 am
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 228
Illinois
Spitfire Ken Offline OP

BritBike Forum member
Spitfire Ken  Offline OP

BritBike Forum member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 228
Illinois
I HAD HEARD IN THE PAST THAT THE REPLACEMENT PIPES WERE NOT CORRECT.THANKS FOR ALL THE GOOD ADVICE. THAT'S A GREAT THREAD.WHY DID YOU MALE A COMPLETE NEW PIPE WHEN YOU HAD A ORIGINAL ONE?
I WOULD BE GREAT IF SOME COMPANY WAS MAKING A CORRECT DUPLICATE. I'M NOT MUCH OF A FABTRICATOR OR DO IT YOURSELFER. HERE IS A SILLY QUESTION; DO YOU KNOW IF ANYONE SELLS A CORRCET SIAMESE PIPE? ANY CHANCE THAT THE ESTRA PIPE COILD BE PURCHASED?


I APOLOGIZE FOR THE USE OF CAPS. I CAN ONLY TYPE WITH MY RIGHT HAND SO USING THE SHIFT KEY IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITES.

The Devil is in the details.

1957 BSA A10 Spitfire Scrambler (numbers matching, very correct, very nice condition)
1965 BSA A65 Lightning Rocket "Clubman" (restored)
1966 BSA A65 Spitfire MK-II (restored)
1967 BSA A65 West Coast Hornet (under rstoration)
2001 Kawasaki W650
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #742839
07/23/18 10:24 am
07/23/18 10:24 am
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,946
Rotherham - S. Yorkshire
Allan Gill Offline

BritBike Forum member
Allan Gill  Offline

BritBike Forum member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,946
Rotherham - S. Yorkshire
I made a new male part as the original had a dent on the bend, I had previously filled it with weld - sucessfully too, but had 2 bends made up, one for the ceramic coated pipes and one to replace the original.
The original clubman siamese has quite a long down pipe, being original I didn't want to cut it. the end of the fabricated downpipe ends not much past the bracket which mounts the downpipe to the lower frame rail. Having the original it also makes a good pattern for another wink


If you have an original pair of downpipes then a good replica siamese could be made easily. I bought a poorly made set new (wouldn't even fit as dual pipes) and chopped and welded until it was as close to correct as I could.. Having a mandrell bending tool I could have done a better job of the short link.. But it serves the purpose and fools a man on a galloping horse.


beerchug
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #742841
07/23/18 11:29 am
07/23/18 11:29 am
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 228
Illinois
Spitfire Ken Offline OP

BritBike Forum member
Spitfire Ken  Offline OP

BritBike Forum member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 228
Illinois
THEY LOOK GOOD TO ME HORSE OR NO HORSE. GREAT EFFERT. IT'S JUST A SHAME THAT THE ONES AVAILABLE COMMERCIALLY AFRE NOT MADE CORRETLY AND NO ONE SEEMS INTERESTED IN OFFERING CORRECT ONE.


I APOLOGIZE FOR THE USE OF CAPS. I CAN ONLY TYPE WITH MY RIGHT HAND SO USING THE SHIFT KEY IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITES.

The Devil is in the details.

1957 BSA A10 Spitfire Scrambler (numbers matching, very correct, very nice condition)
1965 BSA A65 Lightning Rocket "Clubman" (restored)
1966 BSA A65 Spitfire MK-II (restored)
1967 BSA A65 West Coast Hornet (under rstoration)
2001 Kawasaki W650
Re: LIGHTNING CLUBMAN A CORRECT EXHAUST PIPE [Re: Spitfire Ken] #742858
07/23/18 2:48 pm
07/23/18 2:48 pm
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,946
Rotherham - S. Yorkshire
Allan Gill Offline

BritBike Forum member
Allan Gill  Offline

BritBike Forum member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,946
Rotherham - S. Yorkshire
I think a lot of it is supply and demand, you would get a small selection of people who may use one with a side car or for a cluman (or replica) but limited otherwise.

I'd love a set of TT pipes but I beleive few of those fit correctly, so that would be something else that would need chopping... One problem I found is most exhausts are only made out of 1mm steel, originals and the odd other item is made from around 1.5mm, makes for a big difference. The thinner sheet tarnishes quickly and turns golden.. The Thicker ones are harder to bend but last much better.

I'd happily make one for someone, given enough time to set my workshop up etc, Cost wise it wouldn't be cheap in parts alone, supply of some original factory downpipes would help a lot but I'd also have to buy some pre made bends. The of course chroming. (mind you it cost me over £250 for ceramic coating on my exhausts.... Removal of the chrome also highlighted some bad imperfections which, had I known were there... I could have lead filled or weld filled.


beerchug

Moderated by  Allan Gill, Jon W. Whitley 


Home | Sponsors | Newsletter | Regalia | Calendar | Bike Project | BritBike Museum | Spiders Cartoons | "OLD" BritBike Forum | DVD- Manuals & Parts books | BritBike Stickers & Decals
Upgrade to: Premium Membership | Premium Life Membership | Vendor Membership | Site Sponsor Membership
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1