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? Ignition advance cam plate #732107
04/16/18 9:40 pm
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Do I need a small puller to get the ignition advance cam plate off?

I plan to replace points and condenser with electronic, Will I need to preserve the cam plate or will E ignition have it's own system.

Thanks

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Re: ? Ignition advance cam plate [Re: NickL] #732135
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Thanks Nick, That did the trick. Outer and inner timing covers off. Making progress.

Re: ? Ignition advance cam plate [Re: Tracey Spear] #732138
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Re: ? Ignition advance cam plate [Re: Tracey Spear] #732172
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Dang! That is a mighty fancy tool. Perhaps too fancy for my purposes, Though I did take a quick tour through your site, I'm sure we'll be doing business.

Re: ? Ignition advance cam plate [Re: Tracey Spear] #732237
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i don't tap the bolt to the side, as i'm afraid of rounding stuff.

i take a mole wrench and clamp it to the end of the bolt, then just tap the wrench outwards one time with a hammer. falls straight off, and i'm not beating stuff to the side.


i have no idea what i'm doing.
Re: ? Ignition advance cam plate [Re: Tracey Spear] #732250
04/18/18 12:29 am
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And another trick: Find a longish bolt (2 1/2-3") that fits the threads in the AAU. Fit an adjustable wrench, or a pair of round-jawed Vise Grips, around the shank of the bolt, loose enough to slide but tight enough to catch the head, slide the tool out sharply against the underside of the head (kind of like a homemade slide hammer).

The threads in the AAU are British, but if you can't find a suitable bolt, you can get a 5/16" X 24 in far enough to catch enough threads to pull it off. Those threads are not used for anything else (and besides you're going to be tossing that AAU in the spares bin).

The puller bolt is also handy for locating the AAU (or the EI rotor) on the idler pinion, after the breaker (or magnet) plate is installed. Turn the rotor with the bolt to the correct position, then tap the end of the bolt to set the rotor in place on its taper. Then remove the puller bolt and install/tighten the hold-down bolt.


Mark Z

'65(lower)/'66(upper, wheels, front end, controls)/'67(seat, exhaust, fuel tank, headlamp)/'70(frame) A65 Bitsa.
Re: ? Ignition advance cam plate [Re: Tracey Spear] #732345
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Don't throw away ignition advance. Believe it or not, there are some of us who like them better than EI and as time goes on, you may become one of the enlightened ones!

Ed from NJ

Re: ? Ignition advance cam plate [Re: C.B.S] #732417
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https://www.classicbritishspares.co...uller-tool-cbs-20-190-triumph-bsa-norton

Blimey! Talk about over engineering the problem, when all you need is an old bolt and a piece sawn off a 6" nail. Even the factory tool is only a bolt with an extension on the end.

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Re: ? Ignition advance cam plate [Re: edunham] #732437
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Originally Posted by edunham
Don't throw away ignition advance. Believe it or not, there are some of us who like them better than EI and as time goes on, you may become one of the enlightened ones!

Ed from NJ

Amen to that Ed.......my points ignition got me back safely one time on battery juice alone after I'd managed to fry the alternator 100 miles from home.

Phil

Re: ? Ignition advance cam plate [Re: Tracey Spear] #732677
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Just for the record, I've just replaced the points setup on my A65 because when I strobed it, the scatter of ignition timing was just too great. (The advance unit was in ostensibly good condition, with no apparent wear in the bobweights area). I put a Wassell EI on it and the strobe now freezes the timing disc most satisfyingly . I would like to have retained the points because I like simplicity, but there you are.

Jon


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