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John Player Norton - NIZE ! #731780 04/13/18 11:54 am
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Check out this original John Player Norton spotted on eBay. It's a real beauty.

Be sure to scroll down to the video walk-around.

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Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: RF Whatley] #731785 04/13/18 1:51 pm
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HOTness. That bike is a beauty, and apparently at 13K +/- bidding has already met the reserve.


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Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: RF Whatley] #731790 04/13/18 2:28 pm
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Very nice original. Not too many of them out there!


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Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: RF Whatley] #731791 04/13/18 2:34 pm
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...always wonder why some one into old motorcycles sell these ones. There s no more and in this case is very unique plus is fast.
Not a thing of money, living in that neighborhood; also is not too much money to change your life.

The only thing is retiring of the commuting, hobby, sport and want to pass the bike; but in that case you sell the bike to a buddy...
Or when the owner is dead; well, some one can decide to sell.

Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: reverb] #731792 04/13/18 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by reverb
...always wonder why some one into old motorcycles sell these ones. There s no more and in this case is very unique plus is fast.
Not a thing of money, living in that neighborhood; also is not too much money to change your life.

The only thing is retiring of the commuting, hobby, sport and want to pass the bike; but in that case you sell the bike to a buddy...
Or when the owner is dead; well, some one can decide to sell.


Sometimes it's just time to move on to something else ... The present owner probably wanted to "scratch an itch", bought the bike, rode it some, took it to a show or two, and now he's moving on to something else - maybe a Gold Star or a Manx, and he doesn't need a whole shed full of this type of bike. Don't want to tie yourself too closely to your "stuff"!

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Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: RF Whatley] #731867 04/14/18 12:39 pm
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I know they are rare and desirable but to me it's an ugly 70's British styling exercise covering up an attractive bike...


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Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: RF Whatley] #731876 04/14/18 3:51 pm
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dunstalls were uglier.


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Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: Hillbilly bike] #731884 04/14/18 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly bike
I know they are rare and desirable but to me it's an ugly 70's British styling exercise covering up an attractive bike...


Originally Posted by Kevin Roberts

dunstalls were uglier.



I suppose that’s why they make (and made) various different kinds of bike.


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Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: RF Whatley] #731888 04/14/18 6:26 pm
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Different strokes for different folks. I love 70s cafe bikes. Dunstalls, Rickmans, Seeleys, Harris, Dresdas, Japautos, etc. are all very nice bikes in their own unique way. As the owner of a 70s cafe bike I can understand the reason these bikes change hands. They are uncomfortable and a bear to ride in slow moving traffic. At speed with few stops they are reasonably comfortable but anything other than highways or interstates can be very frustrating and painful after about an hour.

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Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: RF Whatley] #731940 04/15/18 10:50 am
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The bars on the JPN don't look too low at all.

It's certainly possible to fit clip-ons too low. They're usually best to be near the top yoke, so you don't feel you're going to leap-frog the bars when you brake.

For wrist comfort, they have to be angled back, towards the tank. That means restricted lock and a huge turning circle.


This guy’s overdone it a bit:

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Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: RF Whatley] #732026 04/16/18 2:49 am
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...hello Nickel, I always read that in this forum: the vibes etc; I have 3 Triumphs, both in working order, an old pre unit and a later unit. I still do not see that vibes thingy.
I use the bikes and crank them up. They are my transportation so not used around the block, always on the road.
Not balanced, may be I had luck with these ones¿?
At some point Mr Healy said that not so much vibration with old 500s so I had the doubt until I bought this late 750.

--regarding uglyness, seems that the factory with the UK and International specs plus UK tuners (also other brands like Lagonda, etc) decided that square is good and nice and the "poor" USA owners were the only ones in the world that loved the curvy lines and tall handle bars...poor guys these chopper guys; do not know what s really going on (wrong?) with the control of speed...

Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: NickL] #732033 04/16/18 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by NickL
I suppose i'll just have to tell him he is a gorilla then....................

Absolutely right about the angle of the clip-on's TT None of my road bikes with clip-on's were ever as comfortable as my outfit
the bars on that were spot on for my liking but on the road getting the angle that nice is more difficult. Also there are good and bad
clip-on's of course and most 'ace bars' were crap.


And you don't realise you've adjusted the bars wrong until you're a few miles down the road.


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As for the vibes thing, you may be right but i have never ridden a parallel twin that was as nice at higher speeds.
Remember that was 50 years ago, not many blokes had their bikes 'dynamically balanced' then, most triumphs etc used to loose
various bits and pieces when ridden at 70-80 for more than about 100 yards.


It's pretty shocking the way the British factories sent out bikes that cracked and loosened things if you didn't crawl around at <50 mph. Early Jap bikes had rubber-mounted lights and they didn't even vibrate much!


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Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: RF Whatley] #732567 04/21/18 8:15 am
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I remember a chap at my local college had a John Player Norton but it was the roadster in the JP colours that they did. I don't suppose he paid much for it (early '80s).

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Never could figure out why they built this but didn't sell a Slippery Sam replica. The North frame was simpler and cheaper to build.
Spent all their efforts on too-tall bars to satisfy American 'fashion.'


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Re: John Player Norton - NIZE ! [Re: RF Whatley] #733020 04/25/18 12:22 pm
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"Auction ended due to an error in the listing"


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