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Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732041
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Here!


1966 Rickman Metisse (a65)
1960 A10 golden flash
1960 lambretta li150
1942 Ariel W/ng
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Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732042
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As NickL has already mentioned, take a closer look at timing gear backlash as the source of the clicking noise.

I had a similar issue recently on a Triumph engine I built - http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/728934/re-does-this-sound-right#Post728934. The dry timing gears made a considerable clicking noise, even although the backlash was not excessive. When I applied some oil to the gears, the noise reduced considerably and sounded normal, although I've not actually run the engine yet!


1946 Velocette MSS
1955 Triton (project)
1959 Velocette Venom
1966 Triumph T120
Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732044
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Ahhhh....

I wasn`t ignoring Nick, I just wasn`t sure what he was saying.

The central timing gear went in dry and the sound could come from that area.

What did you oil yours with Bry?


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1960 A10 golden flash
1960 lambretta li150
1942 Ariel W/ng
Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732045
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I just squired some 20W/50 engine oil on the idler gear teeth with an oil can to test with the timing cover off.


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1959 Velocette Venom
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Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732047
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Ok. Not a big job. I`ll try that tonight.

cheers.


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1960 lambretta li150
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Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732102
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Wow fellas.... I will sleep very well tonight.

Thank you so much!

[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/7QU4n6GictE[/video]

If I told you that the motor was completely quiet after oiling the timing cogs I'm pretty sure you wouldn't belive me!

If I have to remove the inner timing cover again I'm pretty sure I'll remember to empty the gear box next ...

Hahaha


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Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732112
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You don't need to drain the 'box, just tilt the motor a few degrees toward the drive side.

Glad that was the issue anyway.



Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: NickL] #732140
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Me too. I was worried that I had done something terribly wrong.


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Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732152
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Mocking up exhaust brackets...

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Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732228
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So I have booked myself in to a motorcycle show on Saturday, in the riden to the show catogory and I havn`t even fired her up yet!

Made some fittings for the right hand pipe, hopefully do the other side tomorow. Unfortunatly the hole in the frame is in another possition on the left hand side to make room for the rear light switch so I cant just measure the stuff I made tonignt.

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I think it will be pretty sturdy when the tie bar is fitted to the headers, Made the bracket out of 3.5mm stainless.

I kicked them up slightly which is how they are fit on a picture I found in the Metisse book. Loads of room for the clutch cable and exhaust is off my leg for when standing on the pegs.

Last edited by Manx; 04/17/18 9:25 pm.

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1960 lambretta li150
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Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732389
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Tonights the night!

Going to (try) and fire her up. I just need petrol...

Wish me luck


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Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732392
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Good looking bike, your neighbours will love you for these open exhaust pipes.


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Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732395
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I have fit internal baffels but bet that its still pretty loud.

Life is to short to worry about my neighbours.... haha


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1960 lambretta li150
1942 Ariel W/ng
Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732480
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AARRRGGGHH!

So. Last night I was going to fire her up.

I am Running Electrex world 12v kit.

I had an ok spark 4-5 kicks, then nothing.

This kit works by charging a capasitor from the rotor, and the 65w to the lights.

I think the capasitor had som charge in it (which is why it fired a couple of times) and the CDI has either died or stator isn`t giving any charge.

Stripped the bodywork last night and disconnected the kill switch to eliminate that and nothing. completely dead.


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1960 lambretta li150
1942 Ariel W/ng
Re: Robs engine rebuild help thread [Re: Manx] #732527
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Are you trying to start the engine with the lights on?


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