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French Summer Camp 2018 #720157
12/27/17 6:44 pm
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Hello everybody
Just got some x-mas greetings from Sweden. Helen and Boda said, they are planing for the BSA Summer camp near Paris.
Good to know; and probably not the only ones who do have to be prepared. Booking free time from work, see if the kids also have holidays and so on.
Question:
Anything known yet, who is in charge for the Camp, location, time, could there be any problems to get in to Paris with an old bike like ours ???? You know, they use to freak out nowadays about vehicles without filter systems. I heard something like there are no longer motorcycles, old Diesel and oldtimers allowed within Paris city limits...???
Well, i am not very often in France, but get confused by strange regulations, like: MC riders have to have alcohol test equipment on board while riding.
OK, somebody who can enlighten me?
And, of course the final question.
Who will show up next summer?
Cheers
Dieter

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Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: expresidente] #720162
12/27/17 7:08 pm
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Hope it works out, it would be a shame if a country with as much beautiful scenery as France has, "legislates" and "regulates" its way into a place where no one can enjoy riding their old bikes! Maybe someone who rides old bikes there on a regular basis can give you the straight story!

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Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: Lannis] #720177
12/27/17 9:16 pm
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The restrictions appear to be for the City of Paris proper... And not for all of France.

Paris has plenty of other Transportation options. I highly recommend the almost-free Paris Bicycles


I don't see any exemptions for classic vehicles on this site.

http://urbanaccessregulations.eu/countries-mainmenu-147/france/paris

?

Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: expresidente] #720266
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Sorry Dieter, I won’t be attending the summer camp. If it was at its original location (I believe closer to Limoges) then I would have been interested, I had even planned a tour to go with it.

Otherwise I wish all attendees a great time. I think at the last international it was mentioned that it was south west of Paris.

Otherwise I hope to be in Aus... riding a nice soft touring oif thunderbolt.... that’s the hopes anyway.

Edit, decided I’m not going to Aus after doing the sums.

Last edited by Allan Gill; 12/29/17 7:14 pm.

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Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: expresidente] #720291
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Hi Chaps,
yes the Summer Camp will be in SE Paris, in Fontainebleau, the dates are 21st to 28 July.

The French club are sorting out the final details in their booking forms, and it will be released shortly to the BSA clubs in each country.

There will be a trip into Paris as part of the activities, however it will be by coach.
If you wish to take your own motorcycle into Paris, I do not know the current regulations, I will ask our French friends.

Andy


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Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: expresidente] #720468
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Concerning the Paris ban for older cars and bikes: Vehicles of more than 30 years old are exempt from this rule. www.autoblog.nl/files/2016/06/klassiekers-frankrijk.pdf
Nevertheless I would not recommend riding there, unless you have suicidal tendencies, those french ride/drive like idiots, and appear to be all out to kill you.

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Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: expresidente] #721949
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The French Summer Camp booking forms will be released to your national club on 1st February 2018.


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Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: expresidente] #723975
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Summer Camp in France - Booking is now open.
See your local BSA International Club for details.
Cabin bookings to be made with the Campsite.

If you need any information then please ask, I may be able to assist.


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Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: Peter R] #723983
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Originally Posted by Peter R
Concerning the Paris ban for older cars and bikes: Vehicles of more than 30 years old are exempt from this rule. www.autoblog.nl/files/2016/06/klassiekers-frankrijk.pdf
Nevertheless I would not recommend riding there, unless you have suicidal tendencies, those french ride/drive like idiots, and appear to be all out to kill you.


Well, let me just ask ... Looking at road crash statistics, about 5 out of every 100,000 Frenchmen will die in road crashes in a year. In the USA, about 11 out of every 100,000 people will die in such crashes. On a per vehicle-mile basis, I've still got a 50% greater chance of getting killed in the USA than in France.

Sounds like to me that I'm twice as likely to get killed in the USA on the road as I am in France on the road ... And I know that I don't "feel" that much danger every time I go out on the highway here ... and I'd be twice as safe in France .... ?

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Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: expresidente] #723992
02/01/18 8:57 pm
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Maybe in Europe, people care about other drivers......:)

Nah, I've seen the M25 on a Friday.


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Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: Andy Lorenz] #724005
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Originally Posted by Andy Lorenz
Maybe in Europe, people care about other drivers......:)

Nah, I've seen the M25 on a Friday.


Could be; I was just commenting on the "everyone's out to kill you, don't drive in France" when the statistics say you're twice as safe in France on the road as the roads I drive on every day ....

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Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: expresidente] #724130
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Perhaps the volume of traffic is moving the stats? Example: I spend exactly 0 time riding a bike on the DC Beltway. That should improve my survival % by quite a bit. I can tell you from daily experience that those people really are out to kill you.

Re: French Summer Camp 2018 [Re: expresidente] #724373
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There has been an updated booking form (Version 2) sent out to the International Clubs, please use this when booking your rally.


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