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Speedo drives-opinions #720332
12/29/17 4:15 am
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I'm having another go at putting a working speedo on my 68 A65. It hasn't had a working one in some 40 yrs (I tried 3 times in the first 3 yrs I owned the bike-none worked long). One thing's led to another and I'm having my clock restored and a new cable coming with it, but I'm sure the drive (spacer, really) that's been on the bike all these years (unused and unlubricated) is shot. My choices seem to be an Emgo repop, an UK made repop (LF Harris?), or finding a decent used one.
I've got all Winter to decide and any feedback as to the merits of each would be appreciated.

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Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: ron herman] #720355
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If you just want to know your speed, there are LED bicycle speedos triggered by a magnet on the front wheel.

There are GPS speedos on eBay too. They look more like a speedo, but the reasonably priced ones are all either bigger or smaller than the original. They read up to 160 mph or 200 mph, which can attract comments.

I know that's not what you asked, but either of the above is better than 40 years with no speedometer.


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Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: ron herman] #720358
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Hi Ron,

http://smithsgaugesusa.com/

Hth.

Regards,

Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: ron herman] #720381
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Why not see if your existing one works

Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: ron herman] #720384
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Thanks for the replies.

Stuart: I had looked at the new electronic Smiths, but decided to keep things closer to original and have the existing magnetic speedo rebuilt by Vintage British Cables in Alberta. The speedometer on my Bonneville has worked fine for the 20 yrs. I've had that bike so I know that when well sorted they can be reliable.

Triton Thrasher: I worked out long ago what my speed was given revs and gear (at least close enough not to get stopped for speeding)- it's more that I'm finally getting around to making some things on the bike right that I've let slide as unnecessary for too long. When I'm being a good citizen the issue of excessive speed doesn't often come up, and when I'm engaging in antisocial behavior I figure the arresting officer will tell me how fast I was going.(insert smiley emoticon here) It's surprising how often "But officer, the speedometer on this old bike doesn't work" nets a warning instead of a ticket, often followed by a nostalgic discussion about the officers first bike-with a surprising number of them around here being BSA's.

Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: ron herman] #720486
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Hi Ron,

I've heard stories of rapid failure of the speedo drives if you get the wrong one. I rebuilt 2 Smiths ones that both failed, Finally got fed up with using up my stock of originals and bought an LF Harris unit and it has lasted very well.

Ray


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Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: ron herman] #720989
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Well, I dug my way thru the snow to the garage and pulled the existing drive: as expected it's shot. I think that I'll go with the LF Harris unit- keeping things British seems worth a little higher price. I'll see if someone sells their product here in the US and if not get one coming from where-ever. My instruments are on their way back from Canada and should be here next week-can't wait.

Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: ron herman] #720991
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EMGO units work just as good as the more expensive types on the market

Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: ron herman] #721106
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Kyle, Malcolm,
I know the Emglo drive will work just fine: over the years I've bought any number of bits and pieces from Emglo and can honestly say I've never had a bad or disappointing part. That said, it often comes down to personal preference- my last purchase from CBS (a few weeks ago) was for a headlight toggle switch and a horn/dipper switch for a Bonneville. The toggle was available as either a Lucas type or a Genuine Lucas part. I know that both would work fine, but the Genuine Lucas part for the extra 10 dollars was my choice. The dipper switch is really only available as a reproduction, but I'm fine with that- it looks and works great.
So, didn't mean to dis Emglo.

Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: ron herman] #721111
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Originally Posted by ron herman
Kyle, Malcolm,
I know the Emglo drive will work just fine: over the years I've bought any number of bits and pieces from Emglo and can honestly say I've never had a bad or disappointing part. That said, it often comes down to personal preference- my last purchase from CBS (a few weeks ago) was for a headlight toggle switch and a horn/dipper switch for a Bonneville. The toggle was available as either a Lucas type or a Genuine Lucas part. I know that both would work fine, but the Genuine Lucas part for the extra 10 dollars was my choice. The dipper switch is really only available as a reproduction, but I'm fine with that- it looks and works great.
So, didn't mean to dis Emglo.



I understand! You are correct, I think it does come down to preference. Then again that's why we offer choices to give the customer what they want smile

Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: ron herman] #721157
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Originally Posted by ron herman
The toggle was available as either a Lucas type or a Genuine Lucas part. I know that both would work fine, but the Genuine Lucas part for the extra 10 dollars was my choice. The dipper switch is really only available as a reproduction, but I'm fine with that- it looks and works great.
So, didn't mean to dis Emglo.


Don't know about the Lucas toggle switches, but the the 2 position key switch, often (if not always) the non branded ones are only rated for 5 amps, the LAP (Lucas) ones are rated at 25 amps. look identical though.


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Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: ron herman] #721162
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I thought LAP where knock off Lucas?

Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: C.B.S] #721181
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Hi,

Originally Posted by C.B.S
knock off Lucas?

That's the stuff Wassell put in "Lucas"-branded boxes ... cool

Aiui, "LAP", were the last bit of 'original Lucas' manufacturing in GB, they were branding their parts "Lucas" 'til TRW (the owners of the "Lucas" brand) objected (ahead of the licensing deal with Wassell?).

Regards,

Re: Speedo drives-opinions [Re: Stuart] #721799
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Originally Posted by Stuart
Hi,

Originally Posted by C.B.S
knock off Lucas?

That's the stuff Wassell put in "Lucas"-branded boxes ... cool

Aiui, "LAP", were the last bit of 'original Lucas' manufacturing in GB, they were branding their parts "Lucas" 'til TRW (the owners of the "Lucas" brand) objected (ahead of the licensing deal with Wassell?).

Regards,


way to confusing. I will leave that to those who own the name Lucas


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