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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Shane in Oz] #720673
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That's great of you guys to be lining up bikes for the visitors! I'll wager it's going to be a great rally.

I ran the numbers, though, and I'm not going to be able to make it. Fay and I will have JUST gotten back from about 6 weeks on the bike in the USA, and we'll have too much going on at home to be able to head out again so soon.

We thought about putting our "see the USA on your Triumph" trip off, but we've already put it off three or four times, and if we don't go ahead and do it we might NOT do it. So as much as we'd like to see Australia, and partake of your BSA hospitality there, I'll have to put off my next International visit until Wales 2019 ....

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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Lannis] #720687
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From my rather limited experience of the USA, April/May or September/October seem to be the best time to do it.The NZ Triumph riders who came along to the big photo shoot at the 2014 rally spent another 2 or 3 weeks riding over to the east coast and back seemed to have a fun trip. It makes sense to do the cold country in warmer weather and warm country in cooler. You could always bring it forward and do both trips, but no politics stirring smile

For those that can make it and can be away from home, work, etc for more than just the week or so for the rally, our current plan is to take around 3 days to ride down via the coast from Penrith and across the Snowy Mountains (which definitely aren't snowy in November), and about the same coming back inland. According to Google Maps, it's 250 - 300 miles (around 6 hours travel time) per day avoiding highways, which gives time for tourist spots, decent lunch stop, etc.

Down:
  • Penrith - Bega
  • Bega - Myrtleford
  • Myrtleford - Halls Gap.

Return:
  • Halls Gap - Hay
  • Hay - Cowra
  • Cowra - Penrith


That's the current draft, anyway. It's subject to revision as better ideas come up.

Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Shane in Oz] #720714
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Shane. are you offering to lend bikes to people for the rally, or just for a run (Musket Ball ?)

People both here in the UK and in other countries would be very interested in a loan bike, and I can put you in contact with them if you wish.

Insurance would of course need to be watertight.
regards
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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Andy Lorenz] #720792
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Originally Posted by Andy Lorenz
Shane. are you offering to lend bikes to people for the rally, or just for a run (Musket Ball ?)

People both here in the UK and in other countries would be very interested in a loan bike, and I can put you in contact with them if you wish.

There are constraints imposed by the number of bikes I can dig up and transport. We're just over 1,000 km from the rally site, so the limiting factor really is being able to get everything back home. I'll know more later, but at this stage the provisional maximum is 8 bikes total - 6 loaners. The Britbike crew are like extended family (arguments and all) and some of the guys here were very helpful with our Petaluma trip, so BB-ers get first dibs. If we can round up more bikes, utes, trailers, etc, we can manage a few more.
The Musketball run is our smaller version of Magneto Man's Cannonball, involving fewer, newer bikes ding a shorter distance smile
... and a lot less preparation, it must be said.

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Insurance would of course need to be watertight.
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Our NSW Conditional Registration includes third party injury cover, and the bikes will have Comprehensive property insurance as well - things can go wrong despite best intentions.
On that front, warn everybody to be very careful of the terms of any travel insurance. Most policies only cover riding motorcycles under 200cc, but the "adventure" or "extreme sports" policies will often extend to risky activities like riding old BSAs.

Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Shane in Oz] #720794
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Originally Posted by Shane in Oz
Originally Posted by Andy Lorenz
Shane. are you offering to lend bikes to people for the rally, or just for a run (Musket Ball ?)

People both here in the UK and in other countries would be very interested in a loan bike, and I can put you in contact with them if you wish.

There are constraints imposed by the number of bikes I can dig up and transport. We're just over 1,000 km from the rally site, so the limiting factor really is being able to get everything back home. I'll know more later, but at this stage the provisional maximum is 8 bikes total - 6 loaners. The Britbike crew are like extended family (arguments and all) and some of the guys here were very helpful with our Petaluma trip, so BB-ers get first dibs. If we can round up more bikes, utes, trailers, etc, we can manage a few more.
The Musketball run is our smaller version of Magneto Man's Cannonball, involving fewer, newer bikes riding a shorter distance smile
... and a lot less preparation, it must be said.

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Insurance would of course need to be watertight.
regards
Andy Lorenz
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Our NSW Conditional Registration includes third party injury cover, and the bikes will have Comprehensive property insurance as well - things can go wrong despite best intentions.
On that front, warn everybody to be very careful of the terms of any travel insurance. Most policies only cover riding motorcycles under 200cc, but the "adventure" or "extreme sports" policies will often extend to risky activities like riding old BSAs.

Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Shane in Oz] #721103
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Shipping Agents required in Melbourne Area

I’m organising the shipping of bikes from the UK to Melbourne.
We are going to have a container full, however we have a problem.

The shipping company I normally use Oakbridge International can ship the bikes, however their Melbourne agent has declined to handle the container.
He would do individual motorcycles, but not a job lot.

Does anyone know of any agents in the area who we could use ?
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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Shane in Oz] #721122
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Hi Andy and Shane,

I used a company called Secon. They were very flexible and let me do my own documentation and unpack my own container.

http://www.secon.com.au/DAFF-AQIS.asp

That was some time ago but worth a try.

I was going to mention the asbestos requirements, but going back to an earlier thread I see that Shane you are fully conversant with this and have more knowledege then me in this area.

Shane keep the updates on the ride down coming through. Seriously considering joining up for the leg down or back. Working on get my bike trip-worthy at the moment.

Cheers
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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: BrizzoBrit] #721237
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Originally Posted by BrizzoBrit
Hi Andy and Shane,

I used a company called Secon. They were very flexible and let me do my own documentation and unpack my own container.

http://www.secon.com.au/DAFF-AQIS.asp

That was some time ago but worth a try.

I was going to mention the asbestos requirements, but going back to an earlier thread I see that Shane you are fully conversant with this and have more knowledege then me in this area.

Shane keep the updates on the ride down coming through. Seriously considering joining up for the leg down or back. Working on get my bike trip-worthy at the moment.

Cheers
Ray


You can always trailer down to here then ride the rest of the way.
At the moment the big limiting factor is getting the bikes back if riders do a one way.
I should be able to carry 5 but another car & trailer won't go astray.
We have some members near the Vic border and due to time constraints usually trailer to there then ride the balance
Not sure if they both will be attending but both are usually happy to be used as a way station.


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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Morgan aka Admin] #721238
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Originally Posted by Morgan aka Admin
It would be great if we could be able to go Anki and me but we have not even discussed it yet. She hates flying and its on the oppisite side of the globe so I better start thinking of the pitch... wonder if it would be posssible..


Nice time of the year for a cruise


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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Kent Shaun] #721240
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Originally Posted by Kent Shaun
As I don't get out from the Rod & Tappet much, I never see this thread..!

But I'm hoping to be there, as I never did the California rally, best I do THIS one. Knowing what them customs are like, I'll start cleaning the A10 now, it's going to take me at least two years to get it so they'll let it in the country.. wink


You should be able to get a pre clearance inspection in the USA then ship with some one who can bomb the container so agriculture will be happy.
If you want to join in on the ride / drive from here Shane & I have a very reliable & reasonable shipping agent who ships a box of old bikes/cars & trucks out of Longbeach once a month or so depending upon demand.


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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Rich B] #721241
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Originally Posted by Rich B
Shane,

That shocks me that a bike is available. Let me look into which city I can fly into on United......I have tons of FF miles I can burn. No doubt this will be something you have to request a year in advance in their program shocked


United fly to both Syd & Mel.
From memory they used to go Auckland - Syd - Mel.
We used to get our NZ freight satchels via united cause they had earliest landing slot


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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Rich B] #721242
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Originally Posted by Rich B
Damn, November would work well for me. The bike thing, likely gonna be a problem cry

Wonder if I could survive driving chase van on the wrong side of the road........


Never a problem when you are chasing a group.
We won't be travelling particularly quickly, just fast enough to make the ride enjoyable .
Most of the "wrong side" collisions happen early morning or late night.
Shane was planning to do a rotation ( just so long as I don't have to ride lead ) so every one will have a spell behind the wheel & the bars.


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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Andy Lorenz] #721243
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Originally Posted by Andy Lorenz
Shane. are you offering to lend bikes to people for the rally, or just for a run (Musket Ball ?)

People both here in the UK and in other countries would be very interested in a loan bike, and I can put you in contact with them if you wish.

Insurance would of course need to be watertight.
regards
Andy Lorenz
BSA International Rally Secretary (BSAOC UK)


Don't be shy, give Roy a buzz, after all they are the host club.
There are a few Mexicans ( south of the border ) who delight in having their extra bikes ridden by others but very few of them are on Britbike ( shame on them ).
Hopefully there will be more bikes than riders on the trip down so there will be a few spares .


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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: BrizzoBrit] #721244
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Originally Posted by BrizzoBrit
I was going to mention the asbestos requirements, but going back to an earlier thread I see that Shane you are fully conversant with this and have more knowledege then me in this area.

That's a good point about the asbestos. I know they're being very strict with asbestos for anything which is being imported permanently, to the point where shippers are removing brake shoes, head gaskets and exhaust manifold gaskets. One would hope things are more lenient for temporary imports, but it's certainly something to be very aware of for the clubs who are shipping bikes for the rally.

Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: BSA_WM20] #721245
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Originally Posted by BSA_WM20
Originally Posted by Kent Shaun
As I don't get out from the Rod & Tappet much, I never see this thread..!

But I'm hoping to be there, as I never did the California rally, best I do THIS one. Knowing what them customs are like, I'll start cleaning the A10 now, it's going to take me at least two years to get it so they'll let it in the country.. wink


You should be able to get a pre clearance inspection in the USA then ship with some one who can bomb the container so agriculture will be happy.
If you want to join in on the ride / drive from here Shane & I have a very reliable & reasonable shipping agent who ships a box of old bikes/cars & trucks out of Longbeach once a month or so depending upon demand.

That's not a lot of use for Shaun in England, but could be useful for anybody in southern California or the US southwest in general

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Originally Posted by BSA_WM20
Originally Posted by Rich B
Damn, November would work well for me. The bike thing, likely gonna be a problem cry

Wonder if I could survive driving chase van on the wrong side of the road........


Never a problem when you are chasing a group.
We won't be travelling particularly quickly, just fast enough to make the ride enjoyable .
Most of the "wrong side" collisions happen early morning or late night

The biggest trap for the wrong side of the road is turning into a quiet road with no traffic. DAMHIK,IJK. It takes a little while to acclimatise when you get home as well.

Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Shane in Oz] #721297
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I have found that what I have to be most careful of is staying in the center of the lane in city driving. I tend to drift to where my head is in a left-hand drive car without constant vigilance. Motorcycle...no problem. Well, as long as you're paying attention. Look the correct way when pulling into traffic...

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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: No Name Man] #721365
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Originally Posted by No Name Man
I have found that what I have to be most careful of is staying in the center of the lane in city driving. I tend to drift to where my head is in a left-hand drive car without constant vigilance. Motorcycle...no problem. Well, as long as you're paying attention. Look the correct way when pulling into traffic...

Bill E

Yes, I forgot about lane drift. That was quite "interesting" on the Golden Gate bridge with road works in progress.

Do you still think you'll make it to the rally?

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Certainly hope to...with a little help from my friends. Something pretty bad would have to happen for me to cancel.


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Re: 2018 Internation Rally Australia - who's in? [Re: Shane in Oz] #721410
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Cool. Are you joining our little run down from Sydney, or planning to fly into Melbourne?

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Planning on making this rally too.

Details stilt work in progress... but I have been religiously dumping spare change and some not so spare - into the rally jar since Petaluma to save for this one.

So... same as Bill....barring an unforeseen event...see y'all down under.

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I was hoping all along to join you in Sydney if the bike loan is still available. If things stay like they are I will fly over with Rich.


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Bill - when you know your flight details, or rough plans for you & Rich, let me know.

I will try to synch up my Sydney arrival with yours as best I can - planning to join in Shane's musket ball run to Melbourne with you all.

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I have been looking for the riders that plan to travel south to the rally. I am coming from Oregon, USA and will have both a modern bike and BSA to ride. My plan is to ride the modern one north from Melbourne and join up with the riders travelling south to the rally. The BSA will be transported by my friend Thomas Weitacher as he has given me a great favor. (I was the bouncer who let people "know the time" in Petaluma a couple of years ago) so made some good contacts. If I could have more details regarding the ride, I will be able to book my flight and make plans. Also, is anyone planning a trip over to NZ before or after the BSA rally as I would like to see that country also.

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We currently plan a trial run of the "down" part of the route in April when we ride down the the All British Rally (about 150 km short of Halls Gap).

Dates are a little up in the air - either Tuesday - Thursday or Wednesday - Friday to ride down, but that's largely determined by our overseas guests.
For planning purposes, it's probably best to assume we're leaving Penrith around 8 am Tuesday.

I recommend allowing at least 1 day to get over jet lag and sleep deprivation. You can ride from Melbourne to Penrith in a day on a modern nike, but that's up a boring expressway and is still a long day.

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