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Rod & Tappet - Anything goes? BMW?
#721332 01/07/18 12:55 am
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It's not British, but it's a nifty classic, and I believe it'll have a bit of interest for many of the members here.

My best friend, Nacho, passed away last May, leaving his '71 BMW R75/5 in my shop for a refurb that never got started due to lack of funds.

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After helping his widow liquidate his RC collection and some other stuff, I made her an offer for the bike and she accepted it. Poor thing had been in a major head-on collision and the frame had been bodged into semi-rideable shape before he bought it. I always thought it looked hunchbacked, and with good reason!

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Note the welded in steel plate, and the remaining misalignment of the main tube! Also note buckled downtubes. You can't see the severe sledgehammer beating they gave the frame to beat it "mostly" back into alignment...

Anyway, it's basically done with a replacement frame, replacement rear gear unit, and a bunch of new rubber parts and driveshaft shear bolts. Just need to properly flush the gas tank and install new petcocks, and I'll be out in the breeze (and the weather is PERFECT)

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Like I said, not British, but it'll do...

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Re: Rod & Tappet - Anything goes? BMW?
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Grand Paul lad, let us get one thing straight here, this is the *Pub* and on a club night down the pub, we just don't talk about BSA's. They usually start the conversations off, but I can assure you, it's not all about bikes of that make. So WHY would the Rod & Tappet be any different..? Why lad, we've even been know to post photos of FOOD on here... :bigt

So post away my man, that's a great looking machine you have there, can't wait for the photos of it out on the road, I got my Guzzi in a same sort of way. Widow selling my dead mate's stuff, I always feel he's riding with me. Strange but true, enjoy it lad it's done you proud... :bigt beerchug

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GrandPaul #721381 01/07/18 2:42 pm
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Great bike, the slash five BMW's are some of the best bikes BMW ever made. I was on a serious hunt for one a few months ago. During that search, I stumbled on a Granada Red R60/2 and bought that. As soon as the checkbook heals, I will be searching for an R75/5 just like yours. Enjoy it!

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Re: Rod & Tappet - Anything goes? BMW?
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I'll just leave this here...

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GrandPaul #721390 01/07/18 3:31 pm
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Went with a friend to help buy this:

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I rode it for him. Lovely smooth old bike. Wish it were mine. $3000 he paid.

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GrandPaul #721391 01/07/18 3:37 pm
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Thanx, fellows.

My first ride will be to his widow's house, to offer her two older kids rides (and her, if she would)


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Re: Rod & Tappet - Anything goes? BMW?
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Our very own JD, seen above on his R75 /5 - photographed on our Airheads to The Adirondaks ride a few summers ago. This a bridge crossing state lines, he is headed back into New York State from Vermont.
Originally 3 R100RSs, 2 Last Edition 1984 models plus my 1993 RS-

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but one guy had to bug out, so it was the 3 of us left:

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Crashed & totaled that 93 R100RS, a couple years back... this is the current Airhead in my "stable", a lovely 1989 model R100RS... A Canadian Import bike with a high compression motor and the speedo in kilometers, rather in miles per hour...

Seen here at last summer's R100RS40 event, a private gathering celebrating the 40th anniversary of the RS:

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and seen also on last summer's tour of local covered bridges:

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Re: Rod & Tappet - Anything goes? BMW?
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Nice bike Tom!


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Re: Rod & Tappet - Anything goes? BMW?
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Man, I dig the little green boxer.


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Re: Rod & Tappet - Anything goes? BMW?
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GrandPaul, maybe you or one of the other BMW-owning Britbikers could answer a question (or two) for me. I have been searching the Net for fork gaiters that will fit my Ceriani roadrace forks, but without any luck. Most gaiters these days clamp around the fork tube at the top (a la Commandos), unlike the classic British style as seen on dry frame Triumphs and BSAs (those gaiters are too short for my purposes). I have 52mm OD diameter alloy adapter rings (which I really want to use) that clamp around the 35mm fork tube right under the lower tree and thereby allow the fitment of gaiters that are 52mm ID both top and bottom. I read somewhere that the 11-pleat BMW fork boots are 52mm ID both top and bottom, but I haven't been able to verify this. Any chance anyone could check on this for me? The overall length of the (uncompressed) gaiters would also be valuable knowledge. I am not sure what the story is on the 13-pleat gaiters, but it would be nice to know on those, too. Thanks, and sorry for hijacking the thread!

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All I know for sure is that the ones I replaced, and the new ones, are both narrow on top and clamp to the stanchion tubes, and wide at the bottom to clamp to the lower leg tops.


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Did someone mention the R60?
I’ve owned this 68 for 3 years.

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Re: Rod & Tappet - Anything goes? BMW?
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Originally Posted by Dave M
Did someone mention the R60?
I’ve owned this 68 for 3 years.

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One of the things I would love to do is to take one of those down the road about 20 miles on a twisty road and then back on a highway ... and then do the same thing right away on a Guzzi V700. Always wanted to compare the ride, pull, etc of those two icons from my youth!

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Originally Posted by Lannis
One of the things I would love to do is to take one of those down the road about 20 miles on a twisty road and then back on a highway ... and then do the same thing right away on a Guzzi V700. Always wanted to compare the ride, pull, etc of those two icons from my youth!

Tell you what I'll do: I'll do something like that on my R75, then I'll immediately run the same route on my '74 Guzzi Eldorado (I'll take the sidecar off first).

I'll report back (but it probably won't be 'till March or April)

The Goose has a front disc brake, and a 100cc advantage, but otherwise quite similar...

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I have always liked things that start with B. BSA, BMW, Boob.....never mind.
My last major every day ride was a R75-6 purchased used for under 1000.00 US. The odometer gave out at around 150k plus miles and I still rode it for at least 5 more years on a regular basis. Stopped riding it when my knees gave out and stored it correctly in dry storage. One of these days I would like to strap the sidecar on it and use it for a everyday rider again. I have always done regular maintenance on everything I own and I do not doubt the Beemer it will go 200K plus miles with no problems. Great well built Bikes.

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Originally Posted by GrandPaul
All I know for sure is that the ones I replaced, and the new ones, are both narrow on top and clamp to the stanchion tubes, and wide at the bottom to clamp to the lower leg tops.

Well, phooey. Thanks for that info, GrandPaul. Maybe what I read about both ends being 52mm is incorrect.

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JC I have used these last year in 39mm. Custom Chrome a HD aftermarket source. Their # 632802 182mm long & 35mm x 60mm these are black, there is another # for red

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Originally Posted by GrandPaul
Originally Posted by Lannis
One of the things I would love to do is to take one of those down the road about 20 miles on a twisty road and then back on a highway ... and then do the same thing right away on a Guzzi V700. Always wanted to compare the ride, pull, etc of those two icons from my youth!

Tell you what I'll do: I'll do something like that on my R75, then I'll immediately run the same route on my '74 Guzzi Eldorado (I'll take the sidecar off first).

I'll report back (but it probably won't be 'till March or April)

The Goose has a front disc brake, and a 100cc advantage, but otherwise quite similar...


Thanks! and comparisons are always good, but I DID ride an R75 and my Eldorado back to back. Those bikes are a generation ahead of the four-speed V700 and the Earles-forked /2 BMWs ....

Lannis


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Re: Rod & Tappet - Anything goes? BMW?
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having owned a few BMW's R50/2, R60/6, R65, R80St, R1150GS, and an R1200GS, and also a few Harleys, WL750, FL Panhead, FLH 1200 shovel, 1340 dyna, and a sportster. And also a couple of gooses, an V-750 Ambo, and my present V-850 Eldo, I can honestly tell you, a goose sits firmly in the middle, somewhere between the R60/5 and the Shovelhead, but having never owned an R75, that may well be a little closer. I did find that the BMW's are a little revier, and the gooses have the worst gear change.
I would love to own another R60/6, I would dearly love to own another 1200 FLH shovel, but only if I can also keep my 73 850 Eldo...

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Oh and GrandPaul, nice beemer by the way, you have done your friend proud.


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heres one 1969 R69 as i recall I refurbished for a guy a couple of years ago HE bought it new as student in Germany and road it all over Europe and came home to USA with it and it sat in a chicken coop for a long time...i gave it a fine tooth comb going over and it turned out pretty good he was happy

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Originally Posted by J. Charles Smith
Well, phooey. Thanks for that info, GrandPaul. Maybe what I read about both ends being 52mm is incorrect.

Could be the info is correct for OTHER models. Mine is an R /5 series; very similar from I believe 70-96.


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Well, I once rode a hopped up Ambassador (or some mid 70s Guzzi... damn thing nearly threw me off tieback of it when I popped the clutch!

ANd, I've ridden Dave's R60. My. buddy's Guzzi was a beast, didn't seem the least bit the lumbering beast, and boy it was FAST. Dave's R60 is a plodder, but very steady- dead-steady, stay exactly where you put it. Not so fast but it'll definitely do whatever you make it do. I was kind of tossing it about a little, just to see if it could get nimble... It never did feel too nimble but it responded reasonably well to my input. Felt like it could go on forever at 60 MPH.

BMW's shifting has always been clunky. I "pre-load" the shift lever with some pressure before I pul in the clutch lever, and it makes a huge difference in how smoothly the bike shifts. I do this on my more "modern" Beemer, and was doing it on Dave's older one. Kev, you might try this on the Goose, maybe it''ll help out.

One additional bonus in preloading the shifter: It won't pre-load of you're in top gear- nothing there. So you know right away when your in 4th or whatever.


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I owned an R60/6 back in the late 70's which was really enjoyable. When it came time to get another distance bike, about the only thing of interest to me was a period R100. Easy to ride, easy to fix, BMW still makes all the parts. What's not to like ?

Now here's a strange story.... I was reading on one of the interwebs last August about a recall on pre-1981cast front wheels. I thought, that's interesting, my bike falls in that year range. So I went and checked, and sure enough my front wheel had never been replaced by a dealer. So I called the USA BMW Warranty Center and caused a real commotion. The recall was from 1984 which pre-dated both general computer use and BMW's computerized database. They had to call me back after they'd had time to manually find a copy. Long story short, they honored it. Sent a brand new wheel from Germany and directed me to a local dealer. On the prescribed day I drove the bike to the local BMW dealer, and they installed and balanced a new cast wheel, with all new bearings, seals, axle, inner tube, etc at zero cost to me. I had taken a new tire with me, but expected to at least pay for grease and the inner tube. Nope, the bill was zero. The dealer showed me the final bill and it was well over $1000 at dealer prices. He also told me, at 38 years it was the oldest warranty claim work they had ever done.

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While I love British and Italian motorcycles, BMW holds a special place in my heart.

When I was very young, newly married and a junior sailor in the Navy I bought a 74 BMW R90/6 to replace my worn-out Honda CL350. The BMW was the only transportation that I had for three years. In addition to serving in the NavyI was attending college at the time. That BMW felt like a Rolls Royce after the 350 and never let me down in the three years of commuting every day. I also made numerous weekend trips with shipmates during that period, which happened many, many times; sometimes leaving in the morning just after sun-up and not returning until sun-down. The bike hung in there. I just don't think there was any other bike that I would have wanted to rely upon every day than that venerable machine.

I spent many days in the saddle of the R90 through every form of weather. Hot and humid, beautiful technicolor days and freezing evenings on the way back home. The bike clicked through my route like a Rolex watch. Rock solid in ride and in performance.

I own four BMW's today. One is, of course, an R90/6:

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Steve, Whatley...
great stories!

RF, not sure you're aware of it but BMW's USA Motorrad has a pretty terrible reputation as far as customer service, or customer care goes. As an MOA member I've heard many stories featuring sordid details and sad & negative accounts of peoples' experiences with them. Over the past few years they've had some problems with Ike's and stuff and seem to often just not give a millimeter on complaints and issues.

I'd like to copy and share your story if you don't mind. I won't mention your name or location- but this is awesome and it feels like a tale that should be told!
There's an MOA fac eb ook group page, an Airheads group page, AND an R100RS group page.

Maybe this needs to go out to all three, certainly the latter 2, in case anyone else needs their front wheel replaced? PM me of ya want rather than get into this here.

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