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joined the Goldie cult! #716237 11/22/17 5:51 pm
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Hi all, after lurking here and bugging a few of you (yes, I'm talking to you, MM and Swan- thanks, guys!) I now am the owner of a 59 DBD34. It's originally a Catalina, but it's now dressed in clubman's garb. I'll try to get some photos posted soon, but I have to take care of thanksgiving duties this week.

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It seems one can get a machine dating certificate from the BSA Owner's Club or the Goldstar Owner's club. Any advantages going with one or the other, with the exception that it seems the Goldstar club has a bit cheaper membership?

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Congrats! Now get it sorted and start riding it!

And Happy Thanksgiving. Got my own T-day chores with 2 turkeys to cook. One smoked, one fried.....


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With both you get great monthly magazines. The So Cal BSA owners club would be right in your neck of the woods for somewhat local events and rides. Not much of a USA presence for the Gold Star owners club.... That being said A USA branch of the Gold Star owners club would be great addition. Welcome to the club Kevin! There is much to learn from these pages within this forum. Tell us about your Goldie, its history and maybe post some pics.

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joined the Goldie cult!

Cult? Cult!? We don't got no stinkin' cult!

cult \kult\ n. 6a.: a great or excessive devotion or dedication to some person, idea, or thing
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Hmm, maybe we do have a cult.

Re: joined the Goldie cult! [Re: L.A.kevin] #716460 11/24/17 4:40 pm
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Congratulations on your finds! Happy to help and am looking forward to images.

I seem to remember the BSAOC will give you an official dating certificate.

Yeah, it is a cult...


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Originally Posted by ToolBox Dave
With both you get great monthly magazines. The So Cal BSA owners club would be right in your neck of the woods for somewhat local events and rides. Not much of a USA presence for the Gold Star owners club.... That being said A USA branch of the Gold Star owners club would be great addition. Welcome to the club Kevin! There is much to learn from these pages within this forum. Tell us about your Goldie, its history and maybe post some pics.


Thanks Dave I've been an off and on member of the So Cal BSA club since 1995 back when I was stationed in San Diego in the Navy. I've got an M20 and a few other bikes and know the crowd here in So Cal well. Great bunch of guys.

I just picked up my DBD from New Mexico on Monday, from a guy who had it for about 12 years. I am currently away from home doing thanksgiving duties. Wish I was in the garage tearing into it now.

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Ok, so I'm going to try to use postimage to upload some photos.

I found my bikes through an ad in the SoCal BSA owner's club. Or, more accurately, the previous owner of my bikes found me. Bob, in New Mexico, read my ad and asked one of the former BSA So Cal club presidents about me and I was given a good reference. I drove off to South Western New Mexico, with my son in my trusty Tacoma. A deal was struck.

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The bikes were loaded

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And I'm back in Los Angeles with the bikes. Here's my 59 DBD34 (originally a Catalina).

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And here's the other bike, a 55 CB34

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Also, I got a bonus, a big Lyta tank:[Linked Image]

I'll write more later.




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I dig the Skorpion! I had one for a few years. Lots of fun.

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very nice! Congratulations.

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You poor poor man! Oh my, the hours of fettling & fretting, agony & ecstasy you have in front of you... It's a addiction that's very hard to shake. grin
I like the CB34. Just kick it up & go for a ride. If you drop it who cares? Just pick it up & carry on!


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Hey guys, thanks for the welcome.

Tom, the MuZ Traveler parts bike will be dissected soon. It's a bike that was given to me recently and I'm going to use it for parts for my 96 Mastiff. The Mastiff is a really fun bike with loads of power and handling.

The CB34 is pretty cool and a great counterpart to the DBD. If I decide to hang on to it, I'll probably keep it pretty much how it is now, flowboy. I like the idea of having a goldie that I don't need to worry myself over. It would be fun taking it off road. The CB has a timing cover off of an M20 or M21. There's no breather on on those covers, so I need to get the right cover. Then, I'll need a head steady plate, fenders, a speedo or plug for the gearbox at least and so on.

On the DBD, it has a very light coating of surface rust so I've got the tank filled with evap-o-rust to soak overnight.

After I do the 59 tank in the evap o rust, I'll put the 55 tank in and do a full soak. I degreased it and scrubbed it down today.

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Here's the 59 before I took it to to get the title and plate today.

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L A Kevin: Great looking machines. .Does your timing cover not have the screw-in fitting with the disc type breather?

If you are looking for a timing cover with the timed breather it will be CB specific as it was the CB that introduced the timed breather but was the last GS to use the quill oil feed. The DB engine switched to an extended timing side crankshaft to allow for a real oil seal type timing cover. If you still have the CB crank I think you will not be able to use the later timing cover without a modification to the crank.

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A Quota and a Lemans too, so you're a member of TWO cults now I see!

Really pretty Gold Star, hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of riding it!

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Hey Gordo, yep... it still has the quill feed. And, I am familiar that this is a short term set up on these bikes. After I get the 59 running, I'll get into the bottom end on the 55 to see what's in there.

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That's right Lannis, I've had several Guzzis and an M20 too. We've crossed paths a few times...

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Nice. Plenty of 'fiddling fun' in those. If you don't mind, what's the engine number on the CB? Have been looking for a lost one for years and keen even to know if it's still round..

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The '59 er looks nice.
The conversion from quill feed to DB oil seal type is not too tricky if you ever have the crank out. You will of course need the later cover then! Or convert another cover to oil seal.
If the CB has scrambles cams & box or a std. box then you probably don't need a rev counter drive, the power is in the mid range. One less thing to break. Those rev drive gearboxes are hard to find & not cheap.


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Originally Posted by Kerry W
Nice. Plenty of 'fiddling fun' in those. If you don't mind, what's the engine number on the CB? Have been looking for a lost one for years and keen even to know if it's still round..

Thanks


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cheers Some years ago one of the gold star venders sold a steel step bushing to use a later timing cover with early crankshaft. or would not be to hard to turn one out. it was just pressed in to the feed end . hunter

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cheers Some years ago one of the gold star venders sold a steel step bushing to use a later timing cover with early crankshaft. or would not be to hard to turn one out. it was just pressed in to the feed end . hunter

Originally Posted by flowboy
The '59 er looks nice.
The conversion from quill feed to DB oil seal type is not too tricky if you ever have the crank out. You will of course need the later cover then! Or convert another cover to oil seal.
If the CB has scrambles cams & box or a std. box then you probably don't need a rev counter drive, the power is in the mid range. One less thing to break. Those rev drive gearboxes are hard to find & not cheap.


Thanks hunter and flowboy. I will be putting the 55 on the back burner while I work on the 59. I evaporusted both tanks and painted the 55 tank with clear primer and paint to stop any more surface rust. It was only coated with WD 40 and some had worn/dried off.

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I've been going though the 59 and got it running today. I had to adjust the exhaust valve. It was only at 2.5 thou gap. I changed all fluids and installed an AGM battery. The carb (1 5/32 389 Monobloc) was pretty gunked up with dried varnish. One really strange thing about the carb is that it has a 320 main jet. That should be huge for this bike! From what MM and others are saying, a scrambler head DBD34 should want a 220 main jet.

I did a short ride around the block. I'm struck by how tall the bike feels compared to my Dominator and M20. The 8" brake works really well- as good as the SLS on my Dominator.

I need to do some carb tuning to get it to idle right. It still has the However I need to visit a friend in the hospital so I will have to put off till riding again tomorrow.

So far, no leaks and I'm happy and looking forward to the SoCal Norton New Year's ride.

Kevin

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Originally Posted by L.A.kevin
That's right Lannis, I've had several Guzzis and an M20 too. We've crossed paths a few times...


I've been scratching my head for several days and realized "Hey! This is Kevin S.!" There's a lot of Kevins about and I had no idea you were the same guy that I was discussing the world with since about 2002 on the old MGCL or MG-SW ....

I re-read some of that stuff from 17 years ago. We've both changed quite a bit, you know ... and not just getting older. That's a good thing!

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Originally Posted by L.A.kevin
One really strange thing about the carb is that it has a 320 main jet. That should be huge for this bike! From what MM and others are saying, a scrambler head DBD34 should want a 220 main jet.
The AMAL manual calls for that large main jet in the bike as shipped with an open pipe, but with the short silencer on mine the jet has to be very much smaller. I suspect a lot of raw fuel exits the open pipe with the burned exhaust.

Originally Posted by L.A.kevin
I did a short ride around the block. I'm struck by how tall the bike feels compared to my Dominator and M20.
The seat on my Catalina looks to be the same as on my BB but it along with the combination of tires and shocks makes it 2" taller. That, coupled with the Catalina's footpegs being 2" further forward makes the Catalina feel much taller.


Addendum: When my 6+ ft.-tall friend and I were on our Gold Star ride in Texas a few months ago we switched bikes at one point, but at the next town he asked to switch back to the Catalina because the BB was too cramped for him. Looking at the shape of the BB's seat just now I decided the rider sits ~8" back from the front of the seat. From the pegs to that position on the seat is 21-1/2". The same measurement on the Catalina gives 24". Although the foam in the seats aren't necessarily of the same thickness, or compress by the same amount, the fact the Catalina's footpegs are 2" further forward and ~3/4" lower show why my taller friend was more comfortable on the Catalina. The different seating geometry also must contribute to it feeling taller when I ride it.

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