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kickstart rubber?? #657808
06/21/16 5:32 pm
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..bit of a pain to keep the rubber on the kickstart lever...tried wire,glue....any suggestions that work?Cheers!


...I do not and cannot accept the principal that incompetence justifies dismissal...
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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #657818
06/21/16 6:32 pm
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Once she has fired,slide rubber back down with right hand.Always worked for me! If you find a better solution,please let us all know :bigt


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1970 Royal Enfield Interceptor S ll
Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #657851
06/22/16 1:59 am
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..the problem is at traffic lights...if you have to give the bike a couple or three kicks after stalling,the rubber can come off & you don't want to be parking the bike in the middle of the junction to pick up the rubber! Maybe I'll try some of that handlebar grip glue + the wire...Thanks...


...I do not and cannot accept the principal that incompetence justifies dismissal...
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T110 1958
Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: NickL] #657865
06/22/16 5:34 am
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glueing them on has not worked for me, as kicking the motor over breaks them loose againt.

i took the kickstart pedal and drilled a hole in the end. tapped it for a small screw and then hold the rubber on with a simple fender washer. i can also lube the inside so it turns freely and doesnt wear much. i havent lost a rubber in many years.

not original, but works better than new.


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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #657876
06/22/16 8:02 am
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+1 what kevin said

You could even take it a step further and grind some material off the end of the spindle to "spot face" it and get the washer to sit completely flush to the end of the rubber.

It's unobtrusive and the rubber will last. I saw a BSA at the TSMR that had this done and I didn't even notice it until someone pointed it out.

Steve


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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #657881
06/22/16 8:39 am
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I like the idea of grinding a flat and using a washer and screw. Nick says use a Royal Enfield kick rubber - that's a possibility - they're very heavy made, but I couldn't keep one on the Interceptor. They kept breaking up. I forced a piece of large diameter black fuel hose on and it's still in place.
Why is the quality of Triumph and other rubbers so crappy?


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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: Al Eckstadt] #657883
06/22/16 8:49 am
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What Al says, a hose....A loose rubber is dangerous because your boot can roll of the peg...And a loose rubber can affect your bike riding in other ways with the arrival of babies........


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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #657899
06/22/16 11:26 am
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The rubber from a '70s Honda works. It's a bit of a struggle to get it on, but it stays put.


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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: DavidP] #657911
06/22/16 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by DavidP
It's a bit of a struggle to get it on....


One word: P-80!! wink

Cheers,

Steve


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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #657945
06/22/16 7:57 pm
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I have more trouble with the rubbers falling apart rather than falling off.

6T, mate, just don't stall her at the lights lol


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Grant
Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #657954
06/22/16 10:28 pm
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+1 to the fender washer trick. after both my footrest rubbers on my commando were "boosted" i drilled and tapped the spindle ends and installed stainless fender washers. i deliberately left the holes a bit shallow so the screws could be bottomed and not tight against the washer. if i want to remove them now ill have to cut them off!

Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #657956
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i doubt any glue would ever work, as as one kicks the thing over the rubber will and must rotate on the spindle. after a while the folding arm isnt from wear and tear parallel with the shaft the lever it is trying to rotate, so you are twisting and pulling the damn thing off with a considerable amount of force. the best design would acknowledge this and would incorporate an end cap with a bolt to retain the whole affair

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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #657962
06/23/16 12:38 am
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thats the idea! with regard to the crank rubber, a polished convex end piece thick enough in section to allow a 6mm or 1/4 inch stainless allen bolt in a counterbore and your DONE.

Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: jaycee] #657963
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I simply took a large split lock washer that would fit the diameter of the main spindle, shoved the rubber onto the spindle, then using a lot of force with channel locks, I opened up the split washer with channel locks, put it on, and bent the split washer back to a nice flat end piece that wasn't going to slide off of that little "tib" designed to supposedly hold the rubber on.......
Of course, a Harley pedal fits the kicker arm quite nicely, BUT ya GOTTA wind the return spring inside a bit tighter to adjust for the extra 3000 pounds that a Harley kicker pedal weighs......

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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #657967
06/23/16 4:41 am
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..been thinking of cutting a washer so it'll fit over the end of the lever(after I've put on the rubber)the trying one of these??Think Honda's used them on the top of the kickstart/lever?

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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #658305
06/26/16 2:33 am
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bought new kick rubbers for the T100 and they were rubbish so just don't use any at all. Start it with the right foot with the bike on the centre stand and don't really have a problem with the engine stopping at stop signs and the like.

Cheers, Wilf


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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #658640
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I've used the c-clips that 6T pointed out - even modified the "bite" with a dremel. Regardless, they always went astray. Now I have a piston wrist-pin clip (probably from a VW bug) shoved over the post which is quite unobtrusive. We'll see. Leon













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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: kevin roberts] #658787
06/30/16 1:55 pm
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Originally Posted by kevin roberts
I took the kickstart pedal and drilled a hole in the end. tapped it for a small screw and then hold the rubber on with a simple fender washer. i can also lube the inside so it turns freely and doesn't wear much. i haven't lost a rubber in many years.



Kev has it exactly correct.

Take the pedal off. Grind a flat on the end. Drill and tap for 1/4-20 UNC. (You'll only get about 1/2 depth because the pedal is very hard material.)

I use a Norton type k/s rubber because they are larger outside diameter. Slide the rubber on and secure it with a large OD "fender washer" and secure with a 1/4-20 x 3/8 SHCS. Works great. Last k/s rubber you'll ever buy.

:bigt


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Re: kickstart rubber?? [Re: 6T] #658871
07/01/16 1:07 am
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...this is what can happen when you loose the kickstart rubber in 'traffic'!

https://www.facebook.com/amijamesmotorcyle.automotive/videos/839830342827018/


...I do not and cannot accept the principal that incompetence justifies dismissal...
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