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Tyre decision
#642135 02/28/16 2:59 pm
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I am deliberating which tyres to fit to my Goldie rep, ancient prehistoric designs are out so It comes down to two choices
1. Avon AM26 90/90 front 100/90 rear
2. Conti Classic Attack 100/90 front 110/85 rear

Has anyone experience of these tyres? I am leaning towards the Conti as they are a more modern (radial) construction


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Re: Tyre decision
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Avon Roadriders work really well in those sizes on my Commando, 19 inch front and rear. Can't beat British rubber on a Brit bike.


1. Avon AM26 90/90 front 100/90 rear

Last edited by kommando; 02/29/16 6:38 am. Reason: added sizes
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Another vote for the RoadRiders. They really are a very good tire.


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Road Riders is what I have and I am quite happy with them.


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I used the Road Rider AM26 on my Goldie and Thruxton and was very impressed with them.


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Depends on what you're using the bike for - I changed to the Avons on my ZB for tarmac use only - totally changed the feel of the bike from the old school Dunlops- would never go back
And,- they look the part

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Hi Andy and All,
Another rider here more than happy with the road riders

I have ridden a couple of BSA's with wider than standard (100/90)
front tyres, I felt they spoiled the handling compared to the 90/90's
I also like Metzeler Lazer 90/90 fronts

John

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Avon AM26 are great tires. To me they do not look overly 'modern' like some current tires do.
The 'old-school' Dunlop TT100's are still available in a few sizes, to me they do look the part, but you can't go wrong with the Avon's.


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Re: Tyre decision
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I sounds like AM26 are good tyres, has nobody tried the contis?
Dave, I will not put TT100 tyres anywhere near my bike, I tried them many years ago, scary, they are very suceptible to white lining


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Have had some family experience of the new(-ish) Contis, though those we know that have tried them agree that they are better suited to bigger bikes.


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though no longer made in England but japan, the best tyre i have ever used on my goldie is the dunlop TTIOO, 3.60 front and 4.10 rear. If the tread pattern design was ok for the works triumph and bsa production racers plus the i.o.m teams they are definetly 0k for the road today. Been using these tyres since 1973 and can go just as fast as modern sports bikes with their massive balloon size tyres in the twisties. I also own a suzuki gsxr 750

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Sorry but TT100's in my experience are next to useless on normal roads, they follow whitelines and if you come across grooved tarmac up for renewal or for getting rid of water then changing lanes is a no no. If you race on roads with no whitelines then fine use them. They lasted 2 weeks with me and then in the bin they went.

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I think the only reason the Trident and Rocket 3 racers used them was because the rules stated they had to use road legal tyres.
TT100s were the best of a bad bunch, the alternatives would gave been K70s or Avon skidmasters.

I will stand by my description of TT100s SCARY


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I agree....for normal road riding, I was never impressed with the TT100 tire. IME, squirrelly and short lived.


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Andy Higham #642542 03/02/16 12:12 pm
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all i know is that i can go bloody quick with TTIOO tyres, my bottom frame rail that kinks to make space for the oil pump is scuffed due to the angle of lean.The tyres with the trygonic tread pattern that the TTIOO tyre has was used by the proddy racers of the late 60s and 70s, dealers like gus kuhn, boyers of bromley et.al in favour of avons which were available.The TTIOO tyre used for racing was made as a racing tyre ,though the tread pattern was retained for road tyres. Malcolm Uphill in 1968 lapped theT.T at 100 mph thus giving the dunlop tyre the name TTIOO, the tyre was originally called a Dunlop K81. The road tyres were for the road, the racing tyres were for the track, but the tread pattern was the same for road and track.
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The AM26 is better behaved than the TT100 int less than ideal conditions - doesn't track grooves in the road (unless they are very deep!) and impeccable wet weather performance (rode in the heaviest rain I had even ridden in, in 40 years of road riding, on my DBD and they never put a foot wrong). The profile iss also slightly trigonic, like the TT100.

At high lean angles the TT100 individual side blocks can move independantly, making the tyre feel as if it's moving around -Dunlop fixed this with some of the racing versions of the TT100 by joining the side blocks up. Raced years ago on versions of the TT100 with the individual side blocks (on a BSA) and the joined-up type (made in France at the time)(on a 125 two stroke).

Not sure what compounds or construction the current versions of the TT100 have, though the AM26's have current thinking in the construction and current compounds - you can even get sticky ones with 'For Competition use Only' on the side (which I had on my DBD), with current softer compounds - these are the control tyres for the UK Landsdowne series for Manxes/G50's, etc.


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Andy Higham #642675 03/03/16 10:58 am
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How many miles is evryone getting from a rear tyre? I got Avons on my Gold Star the rear lasted 3500 miles. Is that ok? I thought it should have lasted a bit longer. Is it because I do a lot of engine braking, I like to hear that exhaust note on the overrun. You all must be doing that. With Avon tyres I have never felt them move around once, im not right off the edge of them like the racers, im out to the road rider text, thats about where I can touch down a footrest from time to time, somthing I would never have done on the old clasic tyres.



Do Avon give you a choice of compound? for their for road use tyres?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Avon-Roadri...&sr=8-2&keywords=avon+AM26+rider

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hi seismech, i get approx 5,000 miles from the rear of my TT100 tyre, and maybe 7,000 from the front, though the centre tread is still m.o.t legal the sides edges are not, though obviously these mileages will differ depending on riding styles.
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