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Fork Gaiters #608912
07/16/15 8:37 pm
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Off of the Wasp. About 3 years old. Bike indoors 99% of the time. Steadfast Cycles, southern California.

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1967 BSA Wasp
1967 BSA Hornet (West Coast Model)
1967 BSA Hornet (East Coast Model)
1968 BSA Firebird Scrambler
1968 BSA Spitfire Mark IV
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Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #608930
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JRC was advertising they had good ones awhile back. Specifically mentioned the cracking. With that much indoor storage, it rules out the UV don't you think? So it must just be the Oxygen / Rubber issue. Sure is a pain to change them !


Down to 1 BSA, 2 Triumphs, 1 '56 Chevy
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Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: NickL] #608935
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Originally Posted by KC in S.B.
JRC was advertising they had good ones awhile back. Specifically mentioned the cracking. With that much indoor storage, it rules out the UV don't you think? So it must just be the Oxygen / Rubber issue. Sure is a pain to change them !

A pain is right. A couple hour job and additional scratches in the polished brake plate and powder coating eleswhere. Just crummy quality rubber I guess. Like you said, not a UV issue.

Originally Posted by NickL
...Apparently Rabers are supposed to be the best, I found that out after I'd bought the others.....

I tried Rabers over two weeks ago. They are out of all gaiters. They don't know when more will come in. Maybe that's a sign that others are also having to replace crummy quality ones.


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1967 BSA Hornet (West Coast Model)
1967 BSA Hornet (East Coast Model)
1968 BSA Firebird Scrambler
1968 BSA Spitfire Mark IV
Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #608947
07/17/15 1:35 am
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In 2000 I put on a set of NOS gaiters. They are still as new. Some use BMW R100/R80 items. They are still available in good quality.

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Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #608948
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I'll try to find the invoice for the ones I bought a long time ago. Still good. Glad I have hung on to the old old stock ones from various sources over the years. All of those still look good and are probably up to 50 years old. Have to try the BMW ones when the time comes......There's so much crap out there. Cheers, Wilf


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Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #608949
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I bought rabers ones at the camp last year. He had told me he was unable to get his usual supply and believed the set he sold me were as good and I had fitted them that month.... I changed them this spring as they were like the above photo, they didn't last 12 months


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Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #608954
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Not even one year on one of my projects. Bike never been started, never been outside.

Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: NickL] #609217
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I posted the same complaint a while back. Brand new EMGO fork gaiters that did not last a year on a bike that is stored inside and only had 300 miles on it. They rotted away!
My post was titled "Low Quality Parts"
Jeff

Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609224
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Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609243
07/19/15 12:31 pm
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Yes, I contributed to that thread. I put a set of boots from MAP on the Wasp The MAP plastic bag sticker was labeled "UK Made", so will see if they hold up any better. The price of the pair was high. Will see if I got burned or not.


1967 BSA Wasp
1967 BSA Hornet (West Coast Model)
1967 BSA Hornet (East Coast Model)
1968 BSA Firebird Scrambler
1968 BSA Spitfire Mark IV
Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609299
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I have a set for a 1970 TR25W that are supposed to be UK made and the "Good Ones". And two more of the EMGO sets, all still in the bags. I think I am going to remove them from the bags and set them on the shelf for a few months and see how they hold up. Sad part is, if you do a web search of this problem. It seems to becoming very common and it seems to be happening from a few different suppliers and brands. I suspect that they are made in one or two places and then relabeled.
Jeff

Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609301
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I've got two different brands coming, both supplied by JRC. I'm going to do the same thing as you. Open them up, leave them on the self and see what happens.

As a side note there are a pair of NOS gaiters on the Victor that are in great shape.


1967 BSA Wasp
1967 BSA Hornet (West Coast Model)
1967 BSA Hornet (East Coast Model)
1968 BSA Firebird Scrambler
1968 BSA Spitfire Mark IV
Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609339
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Last year I went to that bike Museum in Columbus, OH., the AMA place. In there they had this perfect Matchless, (maybe AJS), all shiny......probably never been outside. Sitting there with rotted gaiters.

Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609379
07/20/15 1:45 pm
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try the unorthodox sources.

years ago i bought a set of 35mm fork gaiters at a motocross shop. good for ten inches of fork travel. i did it just to keep the fork tubes protected-- my 72 never came with gaiters. but they're still in perfect condition, 25 years later.

now, these are the same diameter top and bottom, so they wouldnt work for most old brit stuff. but id suggest going to look at what is available for dirt bikes. thry may have something that could be adapted.


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Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609381
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Thanks for the suggesstion. May be ok for others, but it doesn't work for me, as I go with the original look.


1967 BSA Wasp
1967 BSA Hornet (West Coast Model)
1967 BSA Hornet (East Coast Model)
1968 BSA Firebird Scrambler
1968 BSA Spitfire Mark IV
Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609429
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Originally Posted by Gary E
Thanks for the suggesstion. May be ok for others, but it doesn't work for me, as I go with the original look.


Same here. I want stuff that looks just right. The whole deal with this rubber stuff pisses me off. I know that all our favorite dealers have to sell what they can get, but it's hard not to be irate when you take off something been on there 45 years, looked okay for at least 40, and replace it with nice, fresh looking garbage that lasts a few months.

Usually, somebody will mention that we Britbike guys are cheap bastards that don't want to pay for the good stuff. Not so here.

Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: leon bee] #609441
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Pretty upsetting when one thinks about how popular Triumph, BSA and Norton motorcycles are ( still ) and quite a demand for parts both NOS and aftermarket. It seems that this has been an issue for quite a while now with British machines. But, Jap bikes and others don't seem to be having these quality issues. So many people out there wanting to resurrect old Jap bikes when thousands of them were filling junk yards for the past few decades because they held just that much love with their owners ( at the time ) but other bikes like British iron which never populated junk yards and are highly sought after and always have been can't get quality replacement parts ??? Strange frown




Originally Posted by leon bee


Same here. I want stuff that looks just right. The whole deal with this rubber stuff pisses me off. I know that all our favorite dealers have to sell what they can get, but it's hard not to be irate when you take off something been on there 45 years, looked okay for at least 40, and replace it with nice, fresh looking garbage that lasts a few months.

Usually, somebody will mention that we Britbike guys are cheap bastards that don't want to pay for the good stuff. Not so here.


Jon W.


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1968 T100R Daytona 500
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Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609451
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Something about the carbon content, or who's mixing the compound,or where.
Not enough magic dust for sure.

Frustrating, and my fork lowers are taking a beating from dropping the fender off and out of the way.
This should be a once in a decade sort of chore. I don't even want to admit I'm good at it.

Next time around I might try a pair of original used ones that I packed away for a rainy day.
Guess this might be what I was waiting for.


Don in Nipomo

Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609477
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I remember greasing up my new ones with spf45 before installation about 2 years ago (rabers) But after reading this lot I'm afraid to inspect them. I had ordered a batch per the bsa parts manual only to find the listing is wrong and ended up paying a restocking and shipping charge from a now defunct supplier. The whole business cost close to $100. Those suckers better still be good or I'll , I'll...probably buy another pair. Grrrrr. Leon


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Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609484
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I had to check. They still look good but a little dry-ish. I'll reapply the suntan protectant. Thank you rabers. Leon


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Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: Gary E] #609491
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More short life rubber rot. Good thing the pistons aren't made of todays rubber for British bikes.

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1967 BSA Hornet (East Coast Model)
1968 BSA Firebird Scrambler
1968 BSA Spitfire Mark IV
Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: leon bee] #609527
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Originally Posted by Gary E
Thanks for the suggesstion. May be ok for others, but it doesn't work for me, as I go with the original look.


Originally Posted by leon bee
Same here. I want stuff that looks just right.


i understand. it all depends on what you're doing. looking original isn't always what i'm trying to accomplish. here are the motocross gaiters on my 72 bonneville:

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Last edited by kevin; 07/21/15 3:16 pm.

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Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: kevin roberts] #609533
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Bought new ones for the B40 (same as for A50/A65, i think) from Burton Bike Bits four years ago. Don't know who made them, but they are still flawless.

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Okay. I'll pay $90 US plus shipping for gaiters that will last 4 years. Would a number like that be realistic? I'd need about 5 pairs to start. What would be a realistic price?

I guess I don't expect things to change, wish my bikes had zippers or velcro holding on the fenders and fork boots.

Re: Fork Gaiters [Re: leon bee] #609609
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Originally Posted by leon bee
...wish my bikes had zippers or velcro holding on the fenders and fork boots.

Roger that!


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1967 BSA Hornet (East Coast Model)
1968 BSA Firebird Scrambler
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