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T140 "Best Used Bike"
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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583188 01/29/15 2:21 pm
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Damnit, J Charles, that's supposed to be the britbike community's little secret! laughing

Prices will probably go even higher now.... mad


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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583208 01/29/15 5:19 pm
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At least they describe it in terms of riding the thing, not its "collectability".


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1971 Norton Commando
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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583213 01/29/15 5:38 pm
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What a bunch of negative rsoles commenting on that article. The main one (name already forgotten) clearly hasn't even owned one.


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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583215 01/29/15 5:46 pm
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Why comment on gear ratios when you don't know what they are?


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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583218 01/29/15 6:11 pm
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...good that the commenters hate the brand.
I think 2008 was the last year you could obtain bargains.

Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583230 01/29/15 7:33 pm
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Needs rebuilt every 10,000 miles, well damn I didn't know that, I've owned my 76 since 81 and the bottom end has never been apart. I did have the head head gone through once but it wasn't because I was having a problem, it was because I was having exhaust spigots installed and thought while it was apart anyway I may as well have it done.
The OIF does have a smaller oil capacity but a larger cooling area so that one is a wash imo, a external filter increases capacity and is a sensible upgrade.
"The push rod tubes always leak", wrong I could go take a picture of mine, they've been oil tight for so long they're rusting, my Trident don't leak either and it has four.
"The rear master cylinder is squeezed in there and hard to service" This I agree with but other than painting the frame I've only had mine off once for a rebuild.
The list of engine parts in it that weren't there when it left the factory, other than gaskets and seals is very short.
This bike ain't no trailer queen and has never been in my living room, it gets ridden, it's the only road bike I've owned from 81 until I got my T150 running last year. I don't ride it as much as I used to but it still gets out every few days when the weather is fit.
I've had to limp home on her more than once but she's only come home in a truck once and it was my fault, not the bikes.
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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583233 01/29/15 8:17 pm
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I've only ever ridden late OIF Triumphs and , all things being equal, will never ride anything else. Things that go wrong are usually electrical components which of course have a finite life. No seal is for life so it doesn't bother me if they require replacement after a long period. It's rare that anything mechanical goes awry but I do have my bikes dealer-serviced as per Meriden's recommendation.


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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
meriden4ever #583236 01/29/15 8:25 pm
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I love my Triumph, but the truth hurts. If you compare it to a modern bike it will fall short in maintenance and reliability. Not a good selection for the article

Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583241 01/29/15 8:55 pm
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Well if you're trying to compare a 40 year old bike, based on a 70 year old design to a modern bike you may as well be comparing apples to assholes. But can they be reliable, yes they can. I seem to remember a guy here (Semper) riding a BSA from Georgia to Washington State and back last year with no problems


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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
shel #583245 01/29/15 9:08 pm
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The link shows one of the last - and best - example to be found.

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These bikes will skyrocket in the near future!

Mark those words!


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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583250 01/29/15 9:52 pm
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If you want to ride 150 miles-per-hour, buy a late-model bike.

If you just want to "ride" and ride a bike you can actually maintain and repair, a 650 or 750 Triumph twin does the job just fine.

Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583281 01/30/15 6:29 am
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they are great bikes and one of the best british 750s ever built , they also handle very very well , far better than any pre oil in frame ive ever had , the first 1959 bonnie was one of the worst

Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583283 01/30/15 7:04 am
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I've owned my 1976 T 140V from new. I really like it. And that is that!

Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
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There's many with bad memories of Triumphs or Brit bikes in general. I hear it all the time "three hours of wrenching for one hour of riding". We all here see the stories of horror on this forum,broken parts, holed pistons, clutch trouble and always the Lucas Prince of Darkness remarks. And it's all true unless you do maintenance properly. Also have to keep in mind these are old bikes and some have been seriously flogged in the past...90 percent of modern riders have never kick started a bike other than a 2 stroke 250 dirt bike.
Don't worry, guys used to no maintenance modern bikes will buy the Triumph and the old horror stories will return,the prices will drop,we are all safe.... grin


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“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked. “Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.
Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583290 01/30/15 8:47 am
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"if you're trying to compare a 40 year old bike, based on a 70 year old design to a modern bike you may as well be comparing apples to assholes"

that was my point. The "Best Used Bikes" column features modern bikes that can be bought for reasonable dough and perform somewhere near a new motorcycle that would cost many times more. I would say the late 750s are the closest of the old Triumphs to that category, but not in it. JMO

Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
shel #583322 01/30/15 2:49 pm
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Originally Posted by shel
Well if you're trying to compare a 40 year old bike, based on a 70 year old design to a modern bike you may as well be comparing apples to assholes. But can they be reliable, yes they can. I seem to remember a guy here (Semper) riding a BSA from Georgia to Washington State and back last year with no problems


A good laugh to start my day!

It seems to me that my bikes are much more reliable than they were in the past.

But....I don't ride them like I used to.....like every day at max speed....and given my age, I've learned a few more tricks to keep them going....and the state of the art of keeping them going has improved..drastically.....and I spend the money I have on them much more wisely(less chrome and more wearing parts.)

The 750 is a nice bike once a decent wrench gets their hands on it. Many of the very original ones I have ridden in the past were not as good overall as the earlier bikes.

You have to fix the powerband on some of them. Too buzzy for my tastes.

Cheers,
Bill


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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583343 01/30/15 4:52 pm
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Some of you may not have seen this piece:

http://www.sump-publishing.co.uk/t140.htm

It comes to the same sort of conclusions

Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583345 01/30/15 5:40 pm
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Waste of time reading these journo's opinions as that's all they are, and more often than not, poorly informed opinions at that. We (ie: us who build them and ride them) know best. Most write-ups in bike rag's are full of misunderstandings and inaccuracies but readers tend to take them seriously because they are in print.


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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583356 01/30/15 6:46 pm
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If your bike is a ill running, oil leaking unreliable lump, it's not the bike it's the one maintaining it


When given the choice between two evils I picked the one I haven't tried before
Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
shel #583446 01/31/15 10:12 am
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I agree with you Shel ....I bought a 1977 TR7V new rode it for 10 years it was as reliable back in the day as anything that came from the land of the rising sun. Today I ride a 67 Bonne & a 70 TR6R which I have rebuilt and have no problems . In fact I have had many Triumphs in the past 45 years and none have ever left me stranded.

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I like to ride mine wearing rose colored riding glasses

Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583590 02/01/15 5:33 am
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I rode my 750 TR7T (the oldest of my OIFs) from London to the Pyrenees and back via the Picos de Europas without a hitch: not even a broken bulb. Oil was topped up daily but the dipstick always was wet. I had absolutely no complaints. All in all, over 1500 trouble-free miles. I reckon any of my other OIFs could do the same. Aside from a period Lockhart oil cooler and some fuel filters (now removed), my bike is stock down to the Dohertey grips and Marzocchi shocks. What's not to trust or like ?


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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
J. Charles Smith #583591 02/01/15 5:35 am
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Further to my last post, I commute daily on my OIFs throughout the year and my only complaint is I have to stop riding at some point and get to work !


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Re: T140 "Best Used Bike"
meriden4ever #583593 02/01/15 5:52 am
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Hello Meriden,

Do you use the same bike on the commute, do you have a favourite? Or do you ride different bikes as the mood takes you?

There is absolutely no reason for this nosey question, just curious.

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