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How many of you own a FS #577432
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Been trying to get inspired to work on my 70 Firebird scrambler by doing a little google searching . Not much comes up . Not even here on Britbike. Very little talk of Scramblers at all as far as I can tell. I know Gary has a nice 68 . A few images come up in google but most have the scalloped european style tank. A lot have the wrong exhaust. Were most of these converted to Lightning specs? Lets have a count.... Photos if your is original looking please. Especially if its a 70.


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Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #577434
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I have a 1970 Firebird. It is matching numbers but I bought it as a frame and engine and nothing else back in 2008 and have been piecing it back together since.

It's up and rolling and I should have it fired up this spring. I am going to be using either a fiberglass Spitfire/Hornet tank or a 1966-1967 Thunderbolt/Lightning tank I have acquired since.


Jon W.


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1968 T100R Daytona 500
1971 TR6R Tiger 650
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Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #577453
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Excellent Jon. High side pipes? They seem to be missing on what turns up in Google search.


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No high pipes on mine and I have low pipes for it. I see what you mean about Google searches and finding good, decent 1970 Firebird pics.


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1971 TR6R Tiger 650
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Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #577463
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Here's a 70 FS photo.

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1970 US spec Brochure.

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Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #577475
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Thanks J in KC ....The Brochure is nice. So it the red bike . Yours? Looks very original. Wondering about the side cover decals . Didnt know if they had the flags or not and I see quite a few with that decal on the tank. Not on the brochure though. Still a really sharp looking bike. I think I have everything (or a lead on everything) for my bike except paint and decals.


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Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: J in KC] #577477
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I am trying to assemble a '69 Firebird.

A large stumbling block for me, is the muffler support bracket.

I've heard for quite a number of years, from several sources, that the high pipes were too often removed, and low pipes installed.

I've managed to find a set of those take-off pipes, but not the support bracket....

Although, I've seen 3 of the OIF Firebird support brackets for sale...

Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #577478
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I thought I heard Lannis say he had one,maybe he'll weigh in here.


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Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #577481
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Originally Posted by wadeschields
Thanks J in KC ....The Brochure is nice. So it the red bike . Yours? Looks very original. Wondering about the side cover decals . Didnt know if they had the flags or not and I see quite a few with that decal on the tank. Not on the brochure though. Still a really sharp looking bike. I think I have everything (or a lead on everything) for my bike except paint and decals.


The brochure is correct, which isn't always the case.
Obvious non-standard things with the red bike are:
  • tank colour
  • tank decals (shouldn't have any)
  • side panel decals (should be the later style, as per the brochure pic)

There appear to have been at least 3 variants of the 1970 Firebird Scrambler
  • Candian
  • chrome / blue tank - possibly restricted to the US East Coast
  • arrowhead tank with chrome knee cutouts as per the 1970 Lightning. This might have been a "rest of the world" model.

    Just to confuse things further, the December 1969 Cycle Guide has a road test of a 1969 Firebird.

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    Here's mine, had it since 1975. I put the birdcage back on:

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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #577490
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    Wade I have a 1970 firebird I have been restoring for several years! Other projects seem to get in the way. I will try to email you pics, post them if you wish. Bill

    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #577520
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    Add to that list, the "Cut Off" LH side cover. I had one of those awhile back and sent it off to a better home. (Ithink)
    They are more than simply Cut Off. The one I had had a different oddie hole, which would mean there must have been a different attach point also. Another issue to deal with. Notice on the previous photo with the shield still removed, the cover is not under the pipes. It has 3 oddies !

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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #577534
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    OK so between here and the BSA group on Facebook , there are at least 7 that still exist in our world. More to come I hope.

    Rickman. I got a repop bracket from one of the US dealers. British Only I think. I haven't fitted it yet but I hope its correct. Are you looking for OEM only?



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    Originally Posted by wadeschields
    Are you looking for OEM only?

    Afternoon Wade,
    Nope, I've even been entertaining the idea of trying to make one for myself... I just don't have one to copy from, thus, re-inventing the wheel, so to speak.....

    Someone sent me measurements once, I just don't now if their measurements are where I'd measure from, and, my efficiency at making the correct... pressings? bends and folds..

    Might be smarter to take the idea from those 3 OIF support brackets I saw, and utilize flat stock, I just don't wish to go too overboard with a weighty heavy strap!

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    Well if I can help let me know. I'll dig mine out and get a photo


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    Originally Posted by Rickman
    Originally Posted by wadeschields
    Are you looking for OEM only?

    Afternoon Wade,
    Nope, I've even been entertaining the idea of trying to make one for myself... I just don't have one to copy from, thus, re-inventing the wheel, so to speak.....

    Someone sent me measurements once, I just don't now if their measurements are where I'd measure from, and, my efficiency at making the correct... pressings? bends and folds..

    Might be smarter to take the idea from those 3 OIF support brackets I saw, and utilize flat stock, I just don't wish to go too overboard with a weighty heavy strap!


    Rick, that was me what sent you those details. Probably still got the pics from when I took the bracket off.

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    Like this, but looks like most of those pics didn't make it to the cloud. And that computer is long dead:

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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #577706
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    Wade,...Did you not receive my email photo of the sidecover with `69 decal affixed, and `70 decal loose for comparison? Klemph`s turned out to be a `69 sidecover item, not the tank top item they had listed...mis-numbered. Have found one more possible source for the tank top. We`ll see.


    The fewer there are, the greater the value of each......particularly human beings.
    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #577732
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    I may have missed the email. I will check tonight.


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    Just to add a bit to Shanes assessment of the "red bike": The instrument brackets & cups, headlight brackets & headlight, and apparently, the left sidecover are not correct. Save for the pipes, tank, and front fender, it could well be a modified Lightning. K.C. is correct regarding the sidecover. Stock FS one has the front 2 oddie holes only 3 1/2" apart. decal is `68 FS only. The `70 catalogue has only one frame part # listed for all model twins, and I can`t recall where that lower oddie anchors. BritTwit will know where.


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    Leon,...Is that oddie mount bracket stock or fab?...and do you have a part# for the beast? I could find nothing is listed for it in `69 or `70 catalogue.


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    It's factory. I took everything off and measured it all a couple years ago. That photo was the only one I found at my photobucket account. I may have other pics in my laptop.

    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: Shane in Oz] #577759
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    The brochure is correct, which isn't always the case.
    Obvious non-standard things with the red bike are:
    • tank colour
    • tank decals (shouldn't have any)
    • side panel decals (should be the later style, as per the brochure pic)

    There appear to have been at least 3 variants of the 1970 Firebird Scrambler
  • Candian
  • chrome / blue tank - possibly restricted to the US East Coast


    [/quote]


    I thought the Red/chrome was the FS tank and the Blue/chrome was the B25 tank.


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    Originally Posted by Boomer
    I thought the Red/chrome was the FS tank and the Blue/chrome was the B25 tank.


    Bill, I've seen a couple of pictures of Firebirds with the red/chrome, but only the blue/chrome was in the 1970 advertising.
    My 1970 looks like the brochure. It was bought from Baxters and restored by one of our club members who decided it wasn't very practical for commuting. He included a red/chrome arrowhead tank and sidecovers in the deal.

    The "Two Wheels" road test was in B&W, so the red/chrome for the "rest of the world" bikes is an assumption based on the greyscale, Lightning arrowhead tanks and my spare tank. I could well be wrong.

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    Boomer,...The `70 Starfire tank was unchromed and entirely blue paint with white stripe. Albeit the same Starfire tank, `70 FS configuration was chromed with either blue or red upper panel. I`ve never seen a `70 FS with the `69 style "under-inflated football" tank. Leon,..is your machine `70 or `69? And, I found the oddie bracket that mounts to the battery cradle - - part # 83-1375 - -FS only. Thanks for the photo clue.


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    Like this.....


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    I have an NOS '70 FB blue tank in a box somewhere. I always thought it odd to have a BSA tank with no Badges. ........We don't neeeed no Steenkin Batges...... Also, the center mounted cap and welded lower edge is almost like BSA found a bunch of old '66 tanks stock or something, and made do with it for a new model. 1 Year only.
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    AAHHGGRrrrrrrr! Doncha just HATE this auto-correction when you type F B ??

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    Im not seeing that email Pokie.

    This was emailed to me
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    And this was on Facebook BSA group response to my photo request
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    Boomer,...Sorry...I didn`t mean to be redundant. Just trying to put info out there that some folks might not already know. I suppose it`s more common knowledge now...the price of `70 Starfire tanks has risen lately. Wade,...I`ll try again. Interesting photos you`ve posted. The list must be growing.


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    Originally Posted by KC in S.B.
    I have an NOS '70 FB blue tank in a box somewhere.



    Well that got my attention, put me on the right of first refusal list (you know - mee, mee, mee) when you determine if it's in excess of your needs KC.

    When you do find the box with the tank in it give me a shout.
    I'd run on down to Santa Barbara just to look at it! smile

    I always thought that would be great alternate tank for my 1970 Lightning.
    Not so much ethusiasm for the wide, heavy waisted one sided exhaust system...

    Don in Nipomo .... shopping done, baking now, Christmas Eve ride later.


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    Hello. Here are some pics of a Firebird Scrambler with engine and frame #PC(November,1969)14584 A65F. The BSAOC site claims the A65F was a 1970 model. http://www.bsaownersclub.co.uk/Engine_Frame_Listing.html#1960.

    It has 1400 miles on the odometer. It has been converted to a negative ground charging system with a Tympanium rectifier/regulator.(why? I dunno.) It's been cannibalized for the chain guard and some rear axle and brake drum parts. Sorry I left the side covers off, I do have them. Otherwise it is as original as I found it in a relative's barn in Michigan. I haven't purchased this one yet but I'm working on it this winter.
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    Some F:B stuff here: http://ingfatrygg.se/

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    DP,....Nice item. Hope you harpoon it. ID # suggests (along with the tank) that it`s a late `69 model. Share your progress on the project when you score.


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    Originally Posted by dpkreuze
    Hello. Here are some pics of a Firebird Scrambler with engine and frame #PC(November,1969)14584 A65F. The BSAOC site claims the A65F was a 1970 model. http://www.bsaownersclub.co.uk/Engine_Frame_Listing.html#1960.


    BSA model years are a bit of a trap. The model year started around August of the previous calendar year, give or take a bit. PC would be built in November 1968. for the 1969 model year.
    A quick way to tell a 1970+ A65 is that they use the ball-ramp clutch lift mechanism with the clutch cable entering the timing cover from vertically above. Lots of things can get changed in 40+ years, so it's not guaranteed to be the case, of course.

    The bike looks in nice shape, so it's definitely worth chasing and putting back on the road.

    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: Shane in Oz] #578472
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    I've got a 69 matching number original paint (but faded).

    I will prolly repaint the tank and covers this winter.

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    Thanks everyone. Keep'em coming. Sure are lot wit those arrow head tanks as opposed to the badge-less chrome ones?


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    Semper Gumbi-Bill,
    dont wanna highjack this thread, but:
    my eyeshave just seen a beautiful Volvo Amazon of my favourite colour in the background!
    Have spend many years with that models. They are absolutely brilliant cars, especially the station wagons.
    Is it your car?
    greets Dieter

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    Originally Posted by expresidente

    Semper Gumbi-Bill,
    dont wanna highjack this thread, but:
    my eyeshave just seen a beautiful Volvo Amazon of my favourite colour in the background!
    Have spend many years with that models. They are absolutely brilliant cars, especially the station wagons.
    Is it your car?
    greets Dieter


    Brother Dieter,

    Is a 1966 120 1.8 liter. Runs great but falling apart. It lived a lot of it life in a state that used salt for winter roads. You can have it for $500 and if you do show up the Samuel Smiths Chocolate Stout is free for the afternoon! :g

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    Hey Bill
    Nice offer, and, if it would be around the corner i would go for it. But i think i dont have the time to rebuild a rusty car.
    Maybe you can drive it over for the danish international...?
    just kidding..
    thanks anyway.

    Wade
    looks like you are obsessed by Beezas, mate. Good luck with the Firebird, its a nice bike; i like them.

    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #579288
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    I have a 69 Firebird and wonder if the guys with together ones can tell me if the chainguard should be black or chrome. Also does anyone have a birdcage condition relatively unimportant as i do not have one.By the way my left sidecover has the 3 fasteners and is the short type.

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    Chainguards chrome. In watching eBay almost daily for years, only ever saw a couple of the birdcages. If I wanted one I'd probably call everybody: Baxter's, Beno Rodi, Walridge, etc., and all the sponsors of this board.

    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #579315
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    Add Wes Scott Cycles to the list. He has quite a bit of stuff on hand.


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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: Rusty Goose] #579327
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    Rusty,
    Would you ask Wes if they have a '69 F B muffler support bracket, and how much one would cost? New or preferably used, I won't care, I MUST be cautious about pricing...

    I've seen a number of 'birdcages' at VMD, back when I was going... Some at the OVBSAOC meets... I've had a good one for a number of years, so I haven't been looking for one, sorry...

    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: RGSROB] #579442
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    Originally Posted by RGSROB
    I have a 69 Firebird and wonder if the guys with together ones can tell me if the chainguard should be black or chrome. Also does anyone have a birdcage condition relatively unimportant as i do not have one.By the way my left sidecover has the 3 fasteners and is the short type.


    My 69 Firebird U.S. version is original and has a chrome chainguard and the shortie L.H. 3 fastener sidecover and is candy red.

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    Originally Posted by expresidente



    Wade
    looks like you are obsessed by Beezas, mate. Good luck with the Firebird, its a nice bike; i like them.


    What makes you think that Dieter shocked


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    Hi Guys . thanks for the answers, here is another. My twin mufflers on the left project beyond the rear fender.They are BSA items but overall length of them is 26" which I suspect is not correct.
    Can somebody run a tape over theirs? Thanks Rob

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    Originally Posted by RGSROB
    Hi Guys . thanks for the answers, here is another. My twin mufflers on the left project beyond the rear fender.They are BSA items but overall length of them is 26" which I suspect is not correct.
    Can somebody run a tape over theirs? Thanks Rob


    The F B ones are shorter than on the other bikes. I'll try to get to mine today.

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    RGSBob,....23" from inlet to outlet, stock unit.


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    Here is my 69 A65F.
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    And a Fleetstar tank.
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    This would appear to be the same as a '70 F B but with holes for a parcel rack. I guess these could be filled and painted over.
    Cheers
    Sid.

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    I have a 69 firebird, we'll most, ok some of one. It's been chopperized. I got it as a basket case. Not sure what I want to do with it but those pics sure make me want to return it to stock condition.
    Nice bikes.

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    Thanks pokie, that clears up that one. present mufflers have a cut out for shock clearance so might be from a 68 FS or unit single high pipe. The hunt continues.

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    RGSRob,...What`s the icon for dummkopf? I mistakenly gave you the measurement for `68 FS muffs (23"), but recovered my sanity and measured my `69-`70 FS ones, and they`re 22". Neither set has cut-outs, and I don`t recall that `71 had them either. I believe at one time I sold a set for TR6 Triumph Trophy that had the reliefs, but I have no Triumph reference now to verify......????


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    I recently pawned this off on Pokie. I always thought it was a custom paint job.

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    Thanks for checking Pokie, I found that late A10 measure 22" so may go that way as I can get get a set.
    The penny dropped on the mufflers with the cut out. pretty sure they turn out to be high level unit single items(250?) I just happen to have two of them.

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    Hmmm,
    Very interesting.

    Made me get up and go measure the mufflers a fellow OV member gave me for my F B project; they are the 23" ones... And it's 15 degrees out there! BRRR!

    Thanks for these tidbits!

    Do '69 F B's utilise folding front footpegs???

    P.S. I've got what I think are a pair of triumph mufflers, they are only 18-7/8" long, and use a curved strap bolted onto them to hang from the frame... The straps Sort of look like those Egyptian sickle knives??? Edge-wise? I think??? If I'm gonna use them somewhere, I'm gonna have to find a set of straps, or try to make a pair...

    NOT trying to hyjack this thread. These misc. mufflers just popped into my head, along with thinking about the F B stuff...
    NO idea just which model these misc. mufflers actually originally fit...

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    Rickman,...glad to help. And yes, folding footpegs are correct. On the tank...Fleetstars are pretty thin on the ground in Yankee-land, so thanks to SidSnot for the enlightening photo (Very nice FS, too). I also thought the tank from BritTwit was FS, with paint done by an acid head in Escondido. Cautionary tale here: BritTwit is ruthless and brutal in negotiating...I have wounds still healing from the tank deal. Peligro! Good thing he has a great sense of humor.


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    Originally Posted by pokie
    RGSRob,...What`s the icon for dummkopf? I mistakenly gave you the measurement for `68 FS muffs (23"), but recovered my sanity and measured my `69-`70 FS ones, and they`re 22". Neither set has cut-outs, and I don`t recall that `71 had them either. I believe at one time I sold a set for TR6 Triumph Trophy that had the reliefs, but I have no Triumph reference now to verify......????



    The mufflers on my 1969 Firebird are 23" long and are original equipment.

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    Balz,...Too bad BSA did not ID stamp their mufflers the way they stamped their pipes. My 3 different sized high-pipe muffs {22", 22 5/8", and 23") are stock BSA items, and 1 Toga (22 3/8"). They are all the same dimensions but for the outlet tube lengths, which appear unmolested with a hacksaw. The Toga has a slightly shorter chamber and less finishing on the welds. Nevertheless, any of the 3 are at least 3 inches shorter than the 26" one in question, which solves the overhang prob. And of course we know BSA never had production variations, running design changes, or supplier issues with quality compliance. In the end, whatever works and looks right...use it.


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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: BritTwit] #579908
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    Originally Posted by BritTwit
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    I recently pawned this off on Pokie. I always thought it was a custom paint job.


    Funny that it is so similar to SidSnots tank

    Originally Posted by SidSnot

    And a Fleetstar tank.
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    This would appear to be the same as a '70 F B but with holes for a parcel rack. I guess these could be filled and painted over.
    Cheers
    Sid.


    I never heard of a Fleetstar. What did they look like? Does BritTwin's have the parcel rack holes as well?

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    A Fleetstar is a variation of the B25 for Fleets in the UK, eg The Post Office, Police etc. Lower compression, valanced front mudguard.


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    Kommando,..thanks for that. Every photo I had seen of a Fleetstar before had a Royal Mail rider astride, blocking any view of the tank paint scheme.


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    When you stripped the tank, were there signs of parcel rack holes?

    If the Fleet Star was a home market bike, wonder how it wound up in Southern California?

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    B.T. Woodrow,...No rack holes or vestiges thereof. Purely speculation but, perhaps traffic peelers required them for citation pads, and Royal mail had no need...just used panniers. Was taken to SoCal by terrorists?


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    Stored in a garage for the last 25 years or so. Appears to be all original matching numbers (HD00XXX A65F)except for the older repaint. Still had the original blue on the backside of the side covers. Looks like it has the original Dunlop's. I'll post more images as soon as I give it a bath.
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    1970 A65L
    The FB's stable mate. I had to get both as a package deal. I'll probably sell off the Lightning. I did a quick cleanup and it didn't look too bad. The odd color of the cases and primary cover appear to be some kind of varnish or clear coat that went bad. It appears to be fairly unmolested (original bolts,wiring and air cleaners). No silencers and non original horn. Matching numbers (AD04XXX A65L).

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    So BritTwit are you looking for one of those chicken basket deals now, or do you already have one?

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    My friend Pokie came through with one. It's now soaking in some Berryman carb cleaner in an attempt to remove the Bar-B-Que sauce.

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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #587377
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    Nice Find on the Firebird and Lightning. Unfortunately mine is not further along then it was before. Winter weather , Kithchen project and work , or lack there of, have gotten in the way once again.



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    Wade, this is my friend Kieth's FS. Maybe you will get to see it when you come over for the Norton Rally???


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    Wade, this is my friend Kieth's FS. Maybe you will get to see it when you come over for the Norton Rally???



    Do you happen to have any more photos of this gorgeous Firebird that you can share with us?

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    [Linked Image]

    Finally got the BBQ stains off the exhaust grill that I got from Pokie. Cleaned up nicely. Beautiful chrome under all that dust.

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    Just got this on eBay. Canadian market.
    Did these even exist?

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    "Do you happen to have any more photos of this gorgeous Firebird that you can share with us?"[/quote]

    this is the only other pic I have.

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    Originally Posted by royaloilfield



    "Do you happen to have any more photos of this gorgeous Firebird that you can share with us?"


    this is the only other pic I have.

    [Linked Image] [/quote]


    Thanks, I hope to have my 69'FS completed by early summer. I just received my newly repainted tins back from the painter early this month and am waiting for Spring to arrive so that I can finish it.

    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #592140
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    Wow That is a nice one!


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    Just got this on eBay. Canadian market.
    Did these even exist? [/quote]

    First I've ever heard or seen of a '70 Firebird with low pipes from the factory.

    Anything can happen though. By 1970, every BSA was potentially a "parts bin special", not to mention the mods the dealers made when they were delivered to the Home Market, Eastern US, Western US, Canada, or the Commonwealth, or when a customer made a specific request.

    I talked to the guy who bought my Firebird new from the dealer in 1969. He hated the near-side pipes with the bird-cage shield, so before the dealer even delivered it to him, the original pipes had been trashed and a pair of '68 FBS pipes installed ...

    Lannis


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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #592189
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    In looking closely at the Canadian brochure, it looks like they took a stock Lightning

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    Continued: (hit the wrong key)

    In looking closely at the Canadian brochure, it looks like they took a stock Lightning and added the small headlamp and the FBird tank.
    White fork covers? Now really, whose idea was that.

    This thing was probably shunned faster than an Amish farmer with a skinhead haircut and a Nirvana tattoo.

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    Originally Posted by BritTwit
    Continued: (hit the wrong key)

    In looking closely at the Canadian brochure, it looks like they took a stock Lightning and added the small headlamp and the FBird tank.
    White fork covers? Now really, whose idea was that.

    This thing was probably shunned faster than an Amish farmer with a skinhead haircut and a Nirvana tattoo.


    And they forgot to add the proper Firebird tapered front fender. Yep, I think you're right ... cut'n'paste job ...

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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #592199
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    It is sort of the same color scheme that was used on the 70 US market B25. Looks like the same gas tank too, though different color.

    Probably looked dynamite under a black light...

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    I took this pic last Sunday inside the British Beer Company restaurant in Framingham, Massachusetts. It is a 1970 Y bike. I should have taken a close up of the VIN but it did very clearly identify it as a Firebird Scrambler. May not be correct and all but was a very nice, clean and presentable machine !


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    Originally Posted by Jon W. Whitley
    I took this pic last Sunday inside the British Beer Company restaurant in Framingham, Massachusetts. It is a 1970 Y bike. I should have taken a close up of the VIN but it did very clearly identify it as a Firebird Scrambler. May not be correct and all but was a very nice, clean and presentable machine !


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    Looks pretty in that light; if 'twas mine, I'd either put the high pipes back on or find a Lightning side-cover, and the tank looks like it's missing a rubber mount, too far down in front.

    You have to be a guy who knows where the skeletons in your OWN Firebird's closet are hidden to be able to tell these things .... !!

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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #592606
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    I need a British Beer Company .....


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    Originally Posted by wadeschields
    I need a British Beer Company .....


    I just need a beer!


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    Nice looking Firebird Scrambler from Facebook. Although I'd go for the original tank
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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: Lannis] #596380
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    Originally Posted by Lannis
    Looks pretty in that light; if 'twas mine, I'd either put the high pipes back on or find a Lightning side-cover, and the tank looks like it's missing a rubber mount, too far down in front.

    You have to be a guy who knows where the skeletons in your OWN Firebird's closet are hidden to be able to tell these things .... !!

    Lannis

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    Originally Posted by wadeschields
    Nice looking Firebird Scrambler from Facebook. Although I'd go for the original tank
    [Linked Image]

    Actually doesn't look to bad with those weed burner mufflers. But I'd ditch the pipe wrap before it ruins the pipe metal.


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    Does anyone know if the 70 FS blue is a candy color or is it just normal paint? If candy , does it have a silver base?


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    Hi mates,

    I recently joined the brotherhood of FS owners. I had already shown the bike off at the R&T. grin

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    The poor old BSA was in a terrible state technically although looking really really nice. Anyway...

    I shall get the engine back in within the next two or three weeks. I have now bought a set of Premier carbs as the ones on the bike were a mismatched pair of 930 and 932. mad

    The manual states main jet sizes as 220 which seems quite rich on first glance.
    Has anyone of you first hand experience with a stock 71 FS? This could save me from fiddling with the mains, as due to the exhaust pipes accessibility to the float bowls is, errr...., limited....

    Thanks in advance and best regards

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    70 Firebird blue seems to be candy with a silver base. I bought two about 17years ago. The underside of a tank was still blue, the top faded but it looked to have a silver base.

    I rebuilt one and sold it.



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    I have had 2 Firebirds in the last 20 years, the first a 69 model and the current one is a matching numbers 1970 model
    supposedly came to Australia from New Zealand in 1978.I have fitted a petrol tank off a starfire because it is much bigger than the original one.
    the 1970 petrol tank is black and chrome knee pads. and has high pipes on the left.

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    Originally Posted by Phil in Germany
    Hi mates,

    I recently joined the brotherhood of FS owners. I had already shown the bike off at the R&T. grin

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    Ph.



    Thats a nice looking bike. Good luck with it. Mine is still on hold but hopefully this summer it will be on the road... The painter went and bought metal flaked blue paint but I really want to push him to do the candy with silver base


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    Dear Firebird owning gentlemen, please count me in, with a 1970 GD Firebird and its so peculiar badgless chromed petrol tank.

    Regards

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    I like the badgeless tank. It makes it different from the rest therefore keeping it interesting for me. I can see why everyone changes the stock mufflers though.... But I think I'll keep mine stock anyway....


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    I have a 1970 BSA F/S (in a box) so I have been having trouble even getting pictures of basic issues: Are there any websites that would show some detailed pictures of a 1970 BSA Firebird? (I have looked but to no avail) I am having problems with mounting the Zenier diode (how really does it attach to bike) and where does the rectifier get located (I have found a spot under seat by the battery, which looks good) and are the capacitors mounted below seat on a little bar? It looked like a good spot so that is where I put it. Anyway without some sort of picture (I bought bike in a box) it is even tough to get correct routing of wire harness. And, were the heck does the right side cover bottom oddie attach too,Thanks in advance

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    Its a good idea to get yourself a BSA manual for a start and a spare parts manual, this will show you where things go. The zener goes just above the ignition lock.

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    Hello, my name is Tobias and I am from the south of Germany, Bavaria. Since last November I am restoring a BSA Firebird Scrambler from 1970. This motorcycle is very rare in BMW country. Sure, I'll ask one or two questions to the Firebird owners abroad from (US)A to (New)Zealand.


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    In this condition I bought it.......

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    ....and this is more or less the current condition. The colour changed from fire truck red to flamboyant red, another handlebar, levers, headlight, all electrics new, dozens of seals, screws, brackets - the little things that nobody sees but me crazy

    cheers Tobias



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    Finally finished the freshen up.
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    Forgot the before shot.

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    Two a 1969 stocker.

    And a 1971 motocrosser race bike with dual high straight pipes. At 7000 rpms the boik sings.


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    Originally Posted by BritTwit
    Finally finished the freshen up.
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    Very Nice!!! out of interest what is the colour? it looks virtually identical to the the poor but original paint on my mates FB in the same style as yours and the colour is what we were pondering..... We have seen "flamboyant aircraft blue" however that colour on the blue lightnings looks nothing like it. the only way i could think that was possible was the candy blue over a black base instead of silver....


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    Originally Posted by Semper Gumby
    Two a 1969 stocker.

    And a 1971 motocrosser race bike with dual high straight pipes. At 7000 rpms the boik sings.


    Gotta ask: Has anyone ever tried to race this beast on a motocross track?




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    Originally Posted by Allan Gill
    Originally Posted by BritTwit
    Finally finished the freshen up.
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    Very Nice!!! out of interest what is the colour? it looks virtually identical to the the poor but original paint on my mates FB in the same style as yours and the colour is what we were pondering..... We have seen "flamboyant aircraft blue" however that colour on the blue lightnings looks nothing like it. the only way i could think that was possible was the candy blue over a black base instead of silver....


    The colour as seen on a computer monitor is meaningless .
    Firstly unless it is a high end graphic arts or printers soft proofing screen ( read $ 1000's ) then it will not be an accurate depiction of the image and the image itself will not be an accurate depiction of the real colour of the bike which itself will vary according to the light it is being viewed in .

    And all this is before you take into account the inacuracy ( variations really ) of the eye of the viewer.


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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #751310
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    Just realized I'd never posted a photo of my own FS, four years on ....

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    With a bunch of Guzzis, on the way to Williamsburg VA from my house. About a 400 mile day by the time we got back! With a 100 mile range, I could only stop to take a picture in front of a gas pump ....

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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: Mark Z] #751312
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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: BSA_WM20] #751619
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    Originally Posted by BSA_WM20
    Originally Posted by Allan Gill
    Originally Posted by BritTwit
    Finally finished the freshen up.
    [img]http://[/img]

    [img]http://[/img][Linked Image]



    Very Nice!!! out of interest what is the colour? it looks virtually identical to the the poor but original paint on my mates FB in the same style as yours and the colour is what we were pondering..... We have seen "flamboyant aircraft blue" however that colour on the blue lightnings looks nothing like it. the only way i could think that was possible was the candy blue over a black base instead of silver....


    The colour as seen on a computer monitor is meaningless .
    Firstly unless it is a high end graphic arts or printers soft proofing screen ( read $ 1000's ) then it will not be an accurate depiction of the image and the image itself will not be an accurate depiction of the real colour of the bike which itself will vary according to the light it is being viewed in .

    And all this is before you take into account the inacuracy ( variations really ) of the eye of the viewer.



    True, but it doesn't answer what colour it is lol. His FB is a totally different colour to my Lightning Tank, Both were the original paint, (his having being used, but underside showed it had some shine, mine was NOS but no shine left) . Yet some books (R. Bacon) show as being the same colour for both... I know about the "no two days had the same colour mix" but the lightnings were consistantly lighter than the FB's


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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: BritTwit] #751762
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    Originally Posted by BritTwit
    Finally finished the freshen up.
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    I havent worked on mine in a few years now but that BritTwit, IS the kinda inspiration I need to get started again.... As soon as I finish the Victor shocked


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    Re: How many of you own a FS [Re: wadeschields] #752090
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    1970 A65F Fire Bird Blue vs. 1970 A65L Lightning

    From BSA Motor Cycles LTD. (DM2678 Sheet 2) (Revised 31-12-69)

    A65F Tank 82-9801/269 (Carrs C5666)
    A65L Tank 68-8188/268 (Carrs C5663)

    appears to be two different shades of blue

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