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A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug #498436
07/20/13 11:23 pm
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In the US, a source for the sump plate with the drain plug. My search only brings up suppliers in the UK and NZ.

Does Alloy-Tech still have them? I find nothing but a phone number in the search.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498443
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walridge has a finned alloy plate but I don't know if the drain plug is magnetic. leon


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498446
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they are not U.S. but the kanukians are our brethren, eh?


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498547
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kanukians - you know - people what live in Canadia.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498686
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I went to the local auto shop bought a magnetized sump plug, then got a nut to match. Welded the nut on the inside, centred and drilled a hole through. Hey presto sump plug in sump plate

Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498688
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Whoops nut welded on the outside

Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498697
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Dang got here late; you can also get these at Alloy-Tech in Tuscola, Ill. - and the plugs ARE magnetic.

Yeah the nut does have to be on the outside. I had one done like that. The only thing you have to worry about is the sump plate and the nut rusting. I guess you could paint it or something - I just keep a coat of grease on mine.




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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498699
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I find nothing but a phone number in the Alloy-Tech search.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498701
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Oops I didn't see the top of the thread first time. Gary, as far as I know Alloy-Tech still carries them. They were always pretty low-tech; I don't think they have a website, I always contacted them by phone.



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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498703
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I stand corrected; they do have a website:

http://www.industrynet.com/listing/1680351/alloy-tech


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498704
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And again (sorry)... That's not their website. Back to Plan A (the phone).


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498718
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Gary, are you looking for one like this?
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I make these for the triples. The drain plug is my version of the inspection cap but with a raised hex for safety wire. Uses a rare earth magnet epoxied in. Probably does not need the fins but keep the tab for the wire.

Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498765
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DM, A65 has a 4 bolts on rectangular shape.

Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: DMadigan] #498771
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Originally Posted by DMadigan
Gary, are you looking for one like this?...

As Adam has contributed. The A65/A50's are 4 studs in a square shaped sump.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498815
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Yes, I know. I said it was for the triple. I could make an aluminum sump plate for the A65 with the magnet inspection cap drain plug rather than welding a nut on the existing steel plate.

Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498909
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I bought a spare sump plate and added the drain. Pep Boys, etal., sell a variety of drain plugs, Loctite a nut on the inside and grind off as much as needed.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498915
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How did you get the nut on the inside with the screen as a part of the sump?


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498922
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Originally Posted by Gary E
How did you get the nut on the inside with the screen as a part of the sump?


He didn't. He said "Whoops, the nut is on the outside" in the next post ....

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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Lannis] #498923
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Originally Posted by Lannis
He didn't. He said "Whoops, the nut is on the outside" in the next post ....

Lannis

Read the previous post above mine from DavidP.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498930
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Think he should have said.... nut on the inside and grind off as much as needed. to clear the screen.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498945
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The question is still there on how to get the nut on the inside under the screen that is fixed to the sump plate.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498947
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I don't see the advantage of putting the nut on the inside, except that it won't rust - but the sump plate will still rust in the weld area. The guy who welded mine (on the outside) TIG'ed it and somehow managed to not un-solder the screen.




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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #498953
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If I did the weld nut to the existing sump plate I would just re-plate it. It would be a simple process since the sump plates here have all been previously re-plated. An inside nut would provide a little more road clearance. Maybe a thin nut on the outside would do that a little also. But with an inside nut, some oil would remain in the sump.


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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499004
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A PO brased a nut into my old sump plate,
but ground away most of it so only four and a half turns of thread remained.
I now replaced it by the SRM type aluminium cover which is thicker and has plenty of thread for the plug.
I'm keeping the old one just as I kept the AAU
for someday a next owner, just in case he or she likes it.

Make sure when you replace the thinner steel plate for an aluminium thicker one you replace the studs for longer studs.
The thread is 1/4 in BSW.

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Re: A65 Sump Plate With Drain Plug [Re: Gary E] #499050
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At the risk of beating this to death, I'll make one more case for putting the nut on the outside:

1. If you're going to re-plate, rust is not an issue.
2. The machined face of the nut provides a good mating surface.

I did use a thin nut (I think they call them jamb nuts), although I don't think clearance is an issue - the plug may still be above the framework, and certainly above the sidestand lug and header pipes.

OTOH, unless you're bound and determined to do it yourself, I think you'll find that simply buying an alloy plate will be cheaper in the long run, if you put a dollar value on your time.


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