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Since it is larger, and the fill neck is taller, it is more difficult to to install than the standard oil tank. Installation can be done from the right side, and it needs to go in before the rear fender is installed.


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Thanks Gary

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The '65 Cyclone Competition build includes the restoration of the fiberglass side covers. I have this right side cover that looked reasonable to restore. But you never know what lurks underneath someone's re-painting. It looks innocent enough with the usual issues to repair.

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The paint stripping included a combination of chemical paint removal and bead blasting. After the paint stripping, all kinds of gremlins show up.

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The break at the top oil tank filler cutout will require some glass work on the back side.
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This broken out corner will have to be glassed up from behind.
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The person I bought the cover from conveniently didn't include an image of the cut away pieces. I'll have to make a pattern from another cover and glass up the cut aways to bring that area back to the original shape.
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All of the gelcoat stress cracks will have to be ground out and filled. The upside is that two mounting holes are in good condition, so will require little repair.
So, Phase 1, the paint stripping to see what's needed, is complete. Phase 2 will be the fiberglass repairs.

I'm in need of a left side cover if anyone has it.


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The engine case for the '65 CC had a hard life at some point or more.

The oil sump cover threaded stud holes had two of them that were in poor condition. The studs had been broken off, so someone had drilled next to the broken stud, at an angle and installed studs to be able to install the sumo cover. They had drilled all the way thru to the outside of the case on one, and all the way thru to the case interior on both of them. It was a real bodge job.

In addition, the bottom case thru hole for mounting the engine to the frame was significantly broken out with the case piece completely missing.

After cleaning the case, this is what I had to repair.

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The broken studs were ground out with a carbide bit and the holes were enlarged a bit in order to weld them closed. The repair areas were prepped for welding. The stud holes were welded shut from both the exterior and interior of the case. The case-to-frame thru hole area was welded up with extensive build up for later re-shaping. All repaired areas were re-shaped close to the original case shape. The sump cover surface was re-matched and the stud holes were re-drilled and re-threaded using a sump cover as a pattern. The case-to-frame mounting thru hole was re-drilled to its original size. The case was then thoroughly cleaned inside and out.

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Great job on the repair!


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Lot of wasted time and effort with that case, they are cheap and plentiful.

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Not if it's a "C" case and the numbers match up to a Cyclone Competition which it does. But, if you are not a purist, or you are just a bitsa builder, you wouldn't understand.


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Great job Gary. A few of us are purists we do it for many reasons and it’s never easy. Knackered nuts and bolts don’t cut it. Every detail has to be correct even if you can’t see it. It’s sort of the spirit of restoration.
Plenty of room in the vintage motorcycle world for us all and it’s all highly respected.

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Gary

That is one fine job on that repair.I would have to say you definitely saved that cyclone. from the scrap pile.

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Back to the side cover repair. After multiple steps, Phase 2 is complete. All repairs have been made. After stripping the cover of its "as received" condition, it had multiple issues in need of repair, most of which were hidden by all of the layers of various colored paint over the years. It was not the worst cover I've had to re-build, but not the best either.

An image of the typical issues after grinding out the bad areas.

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The cracks and ground out areas were reinforced on the backside. The top corner was reinforced when it is constantly pushing on the frame tube when mounted. As a result, this spot typically develops a crack in the paint over time..

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The oil tank filler cutout is a typical spot for breakage. It was also reinforced on the backside.

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The chipped corner was reinforced on the backside, then filled in with flox for strength.

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The missing leading edge was fiberglassed up and then built-up with a flox mixture for strength. A top layer of glass was added to avoid any possibility that a crack could develop.

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The cover is now ready for primer and paint.


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Ran on to this image today. I know who it is and what he is riding.

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Is that Leon on a Hornet??
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Yes it is. I like the image as he is ahead of that crotch rocket.


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Damn, I missed this till just now! Should I "like" a post that is a picture of me?

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"Like" it because you are ahead of that crotch rocket.


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Yeah, but he's got a girl on the back.

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Is that a handicap?


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My West Coast Hornet is slowly coming together.

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This was a hornet no one wanted. It came in 6 cardboard boxes. They took it apart and lost interest. Gave it a good bath. They left the engine intact. It did run 5 years ago when I first saw it. It had this godawful 70's paint job. Had Donelsons rebuilt the forks. New shocks, chain, handle bars, new coils, oil lines, air filters, and a new ET wiring harness from Australia. Flushed out the oil tank and drained all the fluids. Cleaned out the primary side. Its gona get a correct paint job and better fenders. Gary the number on this stepchild is A65 HA 14004-Y. Its a number matching bike and thats why I had to save it.
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Both looking good. The 14004 is in the database. A late season dispatch, probably about April or May '67.


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The sidestand that was on my west coast hornet is the one on the left. It has attach points that are thicker than the 66 sidestand and a different bolt. Of course it could be the wrong one that was on it. The parts number say the 66 and 67 years are the same. Which one goes on it?

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The sidestand that was on my west coast hornet is the one on the left. It has attach points that are thicker than the 66 sidestand and a different bolt. Of course it could be the wrong one that was on it. The parts number say the 66 and 67 years are the same. Which one goes on it?

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Of all of the dozens of A65/A50's I've been around and/or restored, I've never encountered the thick one, nor the small head bolt and standard nut. The bolt must be a bit longer to account for the thicker mount area and thicker nut.

When you think you've seen every possible variation in parts, another one pops up.

Great that you pointed it out.

All years up until 1971 used the same 42-4778 with the associated big head bolt and domed nut. The only deviation was in 1965 when the Spares manual shows the Thunderbolt Rocket and Spitfire Hornet (only those two models), having a part number of 68-4757, but with the usual bolt and nut. I do not know what that particular stand looks like. Maybe someone with either of those model machines can shed some light on the difference with an image or two. The 1964 Spares manual also lists the '68' part number.


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