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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #749810
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For your Spitfire Hornet, Lund's ought to work fine. I've used them twice for concentrics, and they worked great. I've never had them do monoblocs. The erratic running, whatever that means, maybe jetting/mixture adjustment. Lund's work is more for sticking slides and fast idling


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Gary E] #749814
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Originally Posted by Gary E
For your Spitfire Hornet, Lund's ought to work fine. I've used them twice for concentrics, and they worked great. I've never had them do monoblocs. The erratic running, whatever that means, maybe jetting/mixture adjustment. Lund's work is more for sticking slides and fast idling


Thanks Gary. Fast idle is the one thing i am facing. I should have stated this. Trying to post a picture, but have not figured that out yet. And i was trying to keep the original monoblocs on it.

Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #749860
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For posting an image, use an image Hosting service, then put the image Hosting link of your image in your post on this forum.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #749884
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Thanks Gary.

Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #750011
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Gary: Snagged another West Coast A65HA. Nice shape, basket since the 70s, and somebody stole the engine years ago. I have an HA bottom end in my stash, so it'll look right. Has almost everything except that elusive tach cable clamp for the right side pipe.

Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #750017
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How is it that it seems all the "West Coast" versions with the TT pipes show up on the East Coast and all I have seen on the West Coast, including the four that I have owned over the years, have the high pipes? Has this been discussed already?


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Boomer] #750021
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Originally Posted by Boomer
How is it that it seems all the "West Coast" versions with the TT pipes show up on the East Coast and all I have seen on the West Coast, including the four that I have owned over the years, have the high pipes? Has this been discussed already?


Bill B...


I have to agree Bill. I bought the first one at the dealership near my house in 1965. High pipes. Unfortunately i sold it years later and had to have another one about 28 years ago and bought the one i have now. Go figure. Just have to get the carbs figured out.
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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: leon bee] #750068
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Originally Posted by leon bee
Gary: Snagged another West Coast A65HA. Nice shape, basket since the 70s, and somebody stole the engine years ago. I have an HA bottom end in my stash, so it'll look right. Has almost everything except that elusive tach cable clamp for the right side pipe.


Good deal. Finding a basket case that is fairly complete is nice.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Boomer] #750073
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I would suspect, and I'm far from all knowing, that some eastern dealers talked the west coast (BSA West) distributor into shipping them some west coast model Hornets. And/or some eastern dealers got the eastern distributor (BSA New Jersey) to get some west coast models for them. I know of no rule that the factory had about who got what. In researching the original production books in the UK in 2010, the particular machine line item entries do not indicate whether it/they are east coast or west coast models, only to which of the two US distributors they were dispatched to.

In my particular case, the east coast model originally went to BSA New Jersey, and the west coast model originally went to BSA West. It would be interesting to know if anyone with a west coast model has a BSAOCUK dating certificate that shows it being dispatched to BSA New Jersey. Anyone? I'd like to see the documentation.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Gary E] #750841
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GARY,

I SPOKE TO THEOWNER OF EXPERT CYCLE IN HOBERT INDIANA SEVERAL YEAR AGO. THEY WRE A BSA DEALER BECK IN THE 50'S AND 60'S WHEN HIS FATHER OWNED THE COMPANYS. HE USE TO ASSEMBLE THE BIKES WHEN THEY CAME IN. HE TOLD ME THAT HE REMENBERED ASSEMBLING A NUMBER OF WEST COAST HORNETS BACK IN THE DAY.


I APOLOGIZE FOR THE USE OF CAPS. I CAN ONLY TYPE WITH MY RIGHT HAND SO USING THE SHIFT KEY IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITES.

The Devil is in the details.

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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #750849
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Ken,

Good info, thanks. It confirms my research/suspicion regarding where west coast models were distributed to.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: leon bee] #750932
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Originally Posted by leon bee
Gary: Snagged another West Coast A65HA. Nice shape, basket since the 70s, and somebody stole the engine years ago. I have an HA bottom end in my stash, so it'll look right. Has almost everything except that elusive tach cable clamp for the right side pipe.

Leon

For the clamp try Matt Colling at MCS - https://www.eBay.co.uk/str/THE-MOTOR-CYCLE-SHOP?_pgn=4 - if you click on one of the items his contact details are at the bottom of the page. He doesn't appear to have one advertised at the moment but a couple of years ago he had a quantity of them but didn't know what they were until I told him.

Good luck and regards


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #750933
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Interesting that a UK supplier would have them since the Hornets were export only.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Gary E] #750939
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He has the old Ted Bloomfield MCS Leytonstone stock. Ted had all sorts of wonderful stuff that came out of the factory at the end. I have been told that some of the big dealers like Vale-Onslow and Bob Joyner cleared lorry loads of miscellaneous parts from Montgomery Street in lieu of outstanding warranty claims. All this stuff went into the trade.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: Two Alpha] #751114
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Who was the lucky eBay bidder on the (O.E.M.) NOS BSA A65TT HORNET, A50 WASP EXHAUST HEADER PIPES 68-2821, 68-2822

Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: 998John] #751118
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Originally Posted by 998John
Who was the lucky Ebay bidder on the (O.E.M.) NOS BSA A65TT HORNET, A50 WASP EXHAUST HEADER PIPES 68-2821, 68-2822


Yes, I'd like to know also, so I can add the set to the TT pipe database.

The listing narrative description wasn't quite right, but it turned out fine for the seller. The last three bids were snipes within seconds of the auction closing.

It gives me an idea of what my extra NOS set might be worth (nicer with no peeling chrome). At $482 gross, net is about $395 to the seller after eBay and Paypal fees.


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Re: Hornet, Wasp, Spitfire Hornet, Cyclone (Restored) [Re: VicCyclone] #751152
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Originally Posted by VicCyclone
Originally Posted by leon bee
Gary: Snagged another West Coast A65HA. Nice shape, basket since the 70s, and somebody stole the engine years ago. I have an HA bottom end in my stash, so it'll look right. Has almost everything except that elusive tach cable clamp for the right side pipe.

Leon

For the clamp try Matt Colling at MCS - https://www.eBay.co.uk/str/THE-MOTOR-CYCLE-SHOP?_pgn=4 - if you click on one of the items his contact details are at the bottom of the page. He doesn't appear to have one advertised at the moment but a couple of years ago he had a quantity of them but didn't know what they were until I told him.

Good luck and regards




Thanks, Vic!

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VicCyclone: Man, thanks for that. I got one on the way.

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