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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Fetch] #544919 05/23/14 7:10 pm
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Mmmm, interesting video.

Engine numbers: (I am no expert here but this is what I see).
1951: 101NA - 15808NA
1952: 15809NA - 2500NA and then there was a change in the numbering 25000 - 32302
1953: 32303 - 44134

The number you have provided 27496NA does not fit within these ranges. Is it possible you wrote the number down incorrectly?

I would not change much until you know more, other than looking for more parts and doing research. Who knows what you have may actually be quite an important and a valuable bike.

What you need to do is take photos of the engine, frame and gearbox numbers and make an enquiry to the VVMC http://www.vmcc.net/ Look up the library section http://www.vmcc.net/aboutus/library/FactoryRecords.aspx and they will be able to give you factory information on the bike. You can also email me with the photos and I will see what I can find for you.

As to the colour "Canadian Blue" as described in the video it is quite possible that the bike was painted that colour after it left the factory. If you contact the VMCC and also include a photo of the bike and the link to the video they maybe able to help.

You can also contact the TOMCC UK http://www.tomcc.org/ with the same information. http://www.tomcc.org/Dating.aspx Look down at the bottom of the page. They will most properly reply quicker. They have the same info as the VMCC but only for Triumph.

Triumph Bulletin 235 gives the colours of all bike from 1945 - 1962 and that colour does not come up with that bulletin.


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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Fetch] #544920 05/23/14 7:16 pm
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I forgot to ask. Did you get a title or any paper work with the bike? You might want to also check for a police clearance etc. What did you pay for it? You can PM me with the reply.


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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: '59 Bonnie] #544955 05/23/14 11:11 pm
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Yes, I have the Title and records for the bike and are acquainted with the last two previous owners. I paid a fair market value for a TRW project bike. The numbering sequence is specific to War Dept. Issue bikes and is correct as listed on the frame, engine, title and registration. I'm fairly sure it is just bone stock TRW in blue. Not to worry, I'm not changing, painting or adding anything, just cleaning, and routine maintenance. I appreciate the patina it has achieved, it has aged well!

Here is the Serial # data Base from Vintage Bike Magazine

Military TRW Military 500cc Side-Valve Twins
YEAR ENGINE NUMBERS
1950 14401N-14459N
1951 6044NA 1432ONA
1952 22001NA 22838NA
1953 22839NA 23273NA
1954 23274NA 23322NA
1955 23323NA 23597NA
1956 23598NA 25447NA
1957 25448NA 27127MA
1958 27128NA 27175NA
1959 27176NA 27346NA
1960 27347NA 27645NA
1961 27646NA 28185NA
1962 28186NA 28464NA
1963 28465NA 28827NA
1964 28828NA 29605NA

It falls early in 1960, some lists I've seen it late 59.

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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Fetch] #544965 05/24/14 12:13 am
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Originally Posted by Fetch
Frame & engine #'s are 27496NA, which puts it either 59 or 60 according to the lists I've seen. I've got it torn down to clean and sort out, all indications are the paint is totally original. The blue is Canadian Airforce, or so I've been told. Brian Slark in the Barber video mentions the Blue TRW's at the end of this video.

Triumph TRW


So was the number correct that you posted? I have posted the photo for you. I will see what I can find for you.

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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Fetch] #544968 05/24/14 12:47 am
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Mmmm, sweet. I haven't seen that list before. My interests is '59 - 62 Bonneville's. But I really like your bike. Well lets see what I can find.


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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: '59 Bonnie] #544993 05/24/14 7:21 am
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Thanks for posting the full size photo. I'm still learning how all this works.

Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Fetch] #545088 05/24/14 8:31 pm
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According to the list from British Only, which appears to mirror the Vintage Bike Magazine list you posted, it is a 1960 model year TRW and your TRW is a very beautiful machine I might add. :bigt


http://www.britishonly.com/tech/joust/techtiptriumphmf.htm



Originally Posted by Fetch
Frame & engine #'s are 27496NA, which puts it either 59 or 60 according to the lists I've seen.

Triumph TRW


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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Jon W. Whitley] #545166 05/25/14 2:07 pm
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Fetch I sent you a PM.

TRW 27496NA built on 14th August 1959 and fitted with Gearbox 111976. It was dispatched to Ministry of Supply, London to Invoice No. 28025/A. And was one of 297 built for the year 1960. There you have every thing on the bike.


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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Two Alpha] #545189 05/25/14 5:26 pm
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Wow! Triple matching #'s, frame, engine & gear box Thank you very much for the research and information.

Where did you find the info? Might be useful for other members too.

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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Two Alpha] #547157 06/06/14 5:13 am
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Here's my 59 5Ta as I bought it 3 or 4 years ago

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5 years earlier the PO had done an engine rebuilt, belt drive conversion and fitted EI hence the later timing cover. He then took unwell and was unable to ride the bike, I was able to purchase it and with a bit of light recommissioning it now looks like this

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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Two Alpha] #547937 06/10/14 6:58 pm
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1951 Triumph Thunderbird. This bike won pre'58 Best in Show last week at the Greenwich, CT Concours D' Elegance.

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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: VintageTriumphSupply] #547988 06/11/14 5:46 am
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That certainly is a beautiful machine VTS. :bigt


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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: VintageTriumphSupply] #547996 06/11/14 7:32 am
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Lookin' good, VTS.


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Re: Post a photo of your Triumph [Re: wadeschields] #549889 06/24/14 11:55 am
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Hi there - your photos all seem a little screwed - is there any way you could fix them please? Love the TT! Thanks




Re: Post a photo of your Triumph [Re: Two Alpha] #559314 08/21/14 11:39 am
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The latest photos of my bike in use.....

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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Two Alpha] #568669 10/22/14 3:18 am
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First day out in the open air after almost 2yr rebuild.
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First time on the road in who knows how long.
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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Two Alpha] #568695 10/22/14 11:32 am
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Beautiful bike


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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Two Alpha] #568872 10/23/14 9:45 pm
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I forgot how much fun it was riding on the beach!

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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Two Alpha] #569748 10/30/14 8:26 pm
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Yikes Mike, do you do that often? The picture made me wince, knowing what the salty air and sand does to chrome and other ferrous metals. Well be sure to give it a good bath and oiling afterward - that bike is too nice looking to be a beach rat.


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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Two Alpha] #570559 11/05/14 7:13 pm
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Bill - I ride in NH all the time -- Hope you don't pass me going the other way -- It could be dangerous - I can't help but take my eyes off the road when a bike like that goes by!!

Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Two Alpha] #576482 12/15/14 2:27 am
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My recently acquired T140D project. Will be putting it back to T140 specs as not too keen on the Special. This is a "before" shot.
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Re: POST A PIC OF YOUR TRIUMPH (restoration project) [Re: Two Alpha] #577050 12/19/14 11:30 am
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G'day all. Back in the game with the next project, a 1968 Trophy. Not my dream machine but it arrived at the right price.

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Hello Bruce,
What's that front brake off?
If a 68's not your preference, what would be? ( just curious)
Sean.


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Hi Sean

I'm still in the process of doing an inventory and getting the proper parts lists for this one. Not sure what is mis-matched and what is not. I think the front brake is right but what do I know at this point.

I got the 250 because I can get back into the british bikes without spending a fortunate on a basketcase and my 17 year old (who is interested in getting his license) can ride it rather than some crotch rocket that will get him in trouble.

I've had a number of 650 twins over the years, a 1966 Thunderbird, a 1969 and a 1971 Bonnville, and a 1969 BSA firebird. I would say my preference would be to have another 1964 through 1968 Bonnie, but happy to be back in this with any Triumph.


Bruce

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