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Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: rmak] #326617
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Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: likemlouder] #328406
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One more photo of my "completed" bike. Still dealing with some final adjustments, but it runs and my boxes of parts are empty, so I will call it finished. I have high pipes on order, and can't wait to see what they will look like. Thanks for all the positive comments. They helped me soldier on through this long and expensive process.

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Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: rmak] #328423
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That extra-long throttle cable can get you into trouble.

You ought to at least route it accross through the gap under the headlight (above the bottom yoke) on the left side, and then back to the carb.


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Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: GrandPaul] #328424
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Thanks, Paul. I was making the cable routing up as I went along. I have it running up the backbone of the frame, but wasn't sure after that. Up through the gap it is.

Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: rmak] #328488
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I know I drooled earlier, but that really is sweet and Paul is right about the cable. Won't it still be to long even if re routed? Looks way long, but maybe it's the picture.

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The cable will still be too long, but won't be as prone to snagging something and causing the bike to take off unexpectedly.

DON'T ASK HOW I KNOW THIS CAN ACTUALLY HAPPEN!!!


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Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: GrandPaul] #328645
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LOL, I have quite possibly had the same issue in the woods though!

Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: rmak] #331033
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Originally Posted By: rmak
How's about posting some photos of that machine, Ray!


I will eventually, Rmak. I'll start a new thread similar to yours. I don't work as fast as you do, though things are finally starting to come together for me.

Two questions: Did you have your hardware white cad plated? If so, can you share the name of the place that did it? Looks good in your pics.

Also, did you install a new hubcap on the front wheel, re-chrome the old one, or was the old one in nice shape when you bought the bike?

One comment (of little consequence): In the Tim Remus / Gary Chitwood book, "Triumph Motorcycle Restoration", there is a picture of a bike like yours on page 103. Under the pic, the caption says, "...The attractive 'Trophy Sports' decal on this bike's toolbox cover is correct for 1968 models only."

Your hard work is paying off -- the bike looks beautiful!


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Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: TR6Ray] #331079
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Originally Posted By: TR6Ray
Did you have your hardware white cad plated? If so, can you share the name of the place that did it? Looks good in your pics.


I use Burbak Plating, but they have a 166# minimum flat rate, and it ALL goes in together; so, you can't sort bits from sub-assemblies or different bikes.


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Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: TR6Ray] #331517
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Hi Ray,
I had a look at your restoration thread. Great stuff, great bike!

I didn't want to spend time/money right now on re-cad. I buffed all the original bolts on a buffing wheel with jeweler's rouge. Many turned out with a chrome like luster. Some were less than perfect. I want to replace the bad ones over time.

I had a guy rebuild the wheels with stainless spokes and new tires. He got the rims and the front cover plate re-chromed.

Yeah, I got the same book with the same photo. It leads to a funny story. Just hope I didn't tell it before.
When I called Don Hutchinson for decals and paint, I asked if that Trophy decal on the side cover was correct.
He chuckled and said in his Massachusetts drawl,"I don't know. Probably not. But look, there's a 99% chance you will never pull up to a bike like yours at a stoplight. If you do, any difference between the two will be a reason to have a beer and talk about 65 Triumphs, not nit-pick what's correct. You want to ride the damned thing,don't you? It's not a museum piece. If you like the decal, if you think it's cool, put it on."
That made perfect sense. I thought it was cool, so I put it on.

GrandPaul said essentially the same thing to me about high pipes. I got them on order too.


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Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: rmak] #331555
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Hi Rmak,

In the grand scheme of things, I'd say he is exactly right. Your bike looks awesome, and I didn't mean to nit pick something trivial. The reason I noticed it was because I just had a similar conversation with my paint guy about decals.

My parts would be done except that they forgot the Trophy decal and the oil spec decal for the top of the oil tank. They wanted to keep the parts a bit longer so they could clear coat over the decals.

My hardware was way too far gone for buffing. I spent a couple days this week glass bead blasting every stinking piece. I see GrandPaul used Burbank Plating for cad work. I may have a line on a guy nearer to home. If not, I will use them.

I was asking about the hub cap because I bought a repop that is slightly different than the original in the way it fastens onto the hub. I think it will work, but maybe I should have re-chromed the original like you did.


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Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: TR6Ray] #331568
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Hi Ray,
I know you weren't casting aspersions. It was a legitimate question. I was actually telling the story about myself and my wish to be extra exact with every detail early on in the project. These guys that have a lot more experience have it right. It's your bike. Enjoy it.

I remember sitting at a booth at the Vintage Motorcycle Days when Triumph was the featured marque. A couple of experts were evaluating the correctness of bikes people brought to the event. I can't remember any that the judges rules to be perfect. 40 odd years of working on these machines have that affect, I think.

So I wouldn't worry too much about that repop cover plate. I made concessions to a few asian and eBay parts after a while because of cost. Rechroming cost me a small fortune. My plan is to make upgrades by restoring and rechrome the original parts over the years and buying top of the line parts as I go. In the meantime, I'm riding.

Speaking of riding, this is my first dry frame Triumph. It is a real blast to ride. I guess I expected more of a clunky inefficient tractor feeling. On the contrary, it's pretty darned quick and responsive. I guess that's what all the hub-bub was about back in the old days.

I envy where you're at with your 64. I kind of miss the excitement of putting mine together already. I did see another TR6 on craigslist.....naw, my wife would kill me!

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Just to do a decent restoration (what some purists refer to as a "refurbishing") can cost north of $10,000.

If you REALLY intend to do a "true" 100 point concours restoration, you could spend another $5,000 that will be noticed by one person in a hundred.

Now, if that one person is a concours show judge, I guess it makes a difference.


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Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: GrandPaul] #331656
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The past two days running, I rode over to the Davenport Swap Meet. It was about 240 miles round trip each day, so a good excuse to take a spin. Only about 70 miles were in a driving downpour. I did not get to watch the judging, because that is going on this morning. Maybe next year I will go over there and buy a hotel room for the weeekend. You can see almost everything motorcycle related that has ever existed. This year is dedicated to all the years of the Triumph Bonneville.


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Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: rmak] #331666
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Originally Posted By: rmak
Speaking of riding, this is my first dry frame Triumph. It is a real blast to ride. I guess I expected more of a clunky inefficient tractor feeling. On the contrary, it's pretty darned quick and responsive. I guess that's what all the hub-bub was about back in the old days.

I envy where you're at with your 64. I kind of miss the excitement of putting mine together already. I did see another TR6 on craigslist.....naw, my wife would kill me!


I saw some stuff at Davenport yesterday that had me debating whether to bring it home or stay married! I knew there were no in-between choices.

I'm still a ways off from that first riding experience, so I envy you back. See if you agree with this quote from Peter Egan (Leanings p. 77) that caught my attention. He was describing his 1967 Bonneville . . .

"The roll axis of the bike feels to be between your ankles rather than sloshing and lost somewhere in the gas tank. It gives you the odd, anachronistic sensation you are riding a motorbike -- a genuine motorized bicycle; a Schwinn paper-boy special with a big hairy engine bolted into the frame -- rather than a two-wheeled transportation module. Perhaps the heart of the Triumph's appeal lies in the subconscious feeling of eternal wonderment that you are hurtling down the road without having to pedal.

The Bonneville's big advantage, of course, is that it was built just before unelected public servants got into vehicle design. So the Triumph has a front fork unburdened by turn signals, beepers, reflectors, timers, dashboards, and idiot lights, which makes the steering light and precise. The tail light, though visible at night, is smaller than a breadbox, and the shift lever is on the right because, by god, that's where the transmission is. The muffler muffles without strangling (silencer, the British term, is an exaggeration) and the engine has no emission controls to help motorcyclists atone for the past sins of Elderado owners."


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Ha, ha. Thanks for that, Ray. Egan's got a way with words, and every one the golden truth....

Re: 1965 Triumph TR6SR Restoration Project [Re: rmak] #373984
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Gidday Rmak
I joined the group after Googling up TR6SR which I have always thought to be the cream of the crop of the Meridan Triumphs
Never owned one or even ridden one but the cut is what makes it stand out above the other models
Your rebuilt is an excellent example & its great to see n watch the ressurection of an icon Well done & good riding

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Rmak,

Did you ever get the high pipes? Would love a pic or 2 as would many more I guess.

TD

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Hi Tiger Dale!
I haven't been visiting this site much lately. I really got po'd at the calendar people here who included my bike in this year's calendar but credited it to someone else. mad Also, I've been working on a Model A pre-war hot rod project that's taking up much of my free time. My good buddy Hud said you were looking for some shots of the finished bike. Thanks to all you guys for your kindness and support.


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Originally Posted By: rmak
Hi Tiger Dale!
I haven't been visiting this site much lately. I really got po'd at the calendar people here who included my bike in this year's calendar but credited it to someone else. mad
Dude. Nice bike but don't be such an ass.

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[quote=Jim Hultman Dude. Nice bike but don't be such an ass. [/quote]
Thanks for the compliment! But Dude, didn't your mom teach you not to engage in sanctimonious name-calling? Particularly when it concerns people and situations you know nothing about. It demeans you as a person.

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The bike is DEFIINITELY sharp!

I got a miscredit on one of my bikes a couple years ago, I felt bad at first, but people knew it was mine from all the forum info on the build.

Still nice to see your name out there, sorry about that. We all know it's yours. Bottom line, your bike made it in! That's a keepsake. You can always tape a little correction on there...


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Thanks, Paul. Much appreciated. It did make me feel bad. Especially since I told a bunch of people, friends and family to buy the calendar. It's a little embarassing to call them all back and try to explain what happened. That's when I felt like an ass. blush

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Originally Posted By: rmak
[quote=Jim Hultman Dude. Nice bike but don't be such an ass.
Thanks for the compliment! But Dude, didn't your mom teach you not to engage in sanctimonious name-calling? Particularly when it concerns people and situations you know nothing about. It demeans you as a person.
Sorry. Just slipped out. I know the folks that work on the calendar work hard on it and if they make a mistake, I would think some light hearted razzing would be in order. Certainly not anger. So, how about "lighten up". That better?

Then again, if you NEVER make mistakes yourself, I guess that's different. Is that the case? Are you perfect? Just curious. grin

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I've never implied I was perfect. If we are playing semantics I suppose I should conclude you are one of the few saints on the earth who have never been angry because you always realize your imperfections. We can go on and on this way if you wish, but to what end?

I much prefer the tone of the first part of your message. I really wasn't angry per se. More embarassed and frustrated after promoting the site and calendar sales to the people who I know and then having to backtrack. Believe it or not, Jim, I have people who like me and support my efforts.

I figured you were buddies with the calendar people. I'm sure they appreciate your support.

I'm the advisor to our school's newspaper. Whenever we have a real life newspaper person talk to our teenage staff one of the first rules they go over is, "Get people's names right!" It's not only professional, it's also respectful and considerate.

These are my last words on the matter. Bash away if you want!

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