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Wiring gas tank bolts tight #334780
09/22/10 11:12 pm
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Well, I lost my two original front gas tank bolts on the 65. They must have vibrated loose and fallen off sometime.
I got some replacment bolts and I think it's time to put some wire through them like I believe they're supposed to be.
Does anyone know how the wire goes? There is a hole through the head of the front gas tank bolts for the wire, but where does the wire go or attach to then?
Thanks.

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Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: ] #334789
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The bolts go through a metal washer, a grommet, the frame extensions to hold the tank, another rubber grommet and then screws into the tank.
The bolts have a hole through the head, as I mentioned. I believe that hole is for a wire to pass through to secure the bolt, stopping it from working it's way out. I didn't secure my original bolts and they fell out from vibration.
The bolts are screwed into the tank. That's not the problem. I was just wondering if folks use a wire to secure the bolt and how that wire goes. I could make something up but I don't want it to look unsightly.

Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: rmak] #334798
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Is this photo helpful? There may be others on the site.


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Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: kngkong] #334826
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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Looks like the wire just loops over the bracket. Thanks, much appreciated.

Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: rmak] #334829
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Dont know whether it is "factory" or not, but I would wire the heads together.

Feed a length of wire through one side - twist as you direct the wire to the other bolt head - feed through the second bolt - twist enough length to snip it and bend it back around and tuck it back between the bolt heads out of the way.


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Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: rmak] #334908
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Yes, a nice looking wiring job would tie the two front bolts together forming a nice "S" , the wire exiting the side of the bolts that would appear to be tightening the bolts together.
This is considered high art in the racing world.
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Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: HawaiianTiger] #334916
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If anyone has a picture of that "S" configuration I'd give it a try. I majored in advance basketweaving in college.

Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: rmak] #334938
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Dont know if this is exactly what HT means.

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Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: rmak] #334952
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Exactly! Couldn't have shown it better.
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Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: rmak] #335007
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Anything wrong with just using Loctite - or have I missed something?

Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: zhango] #335008
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I guess not. I just assumed those holes in the bolt were for wire and and that's the way the bike was originally set up. Revisiting pre-locktite technology is one reason I like tinkering with these bikes.

Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: rmak] #335375
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Mine are wired to the bracket. At the end of the day, it doesn't really *matter* - as long as the bolt can't turn, job's a good 'un !

Incidentally, I just had the tank off of Daisy, 'cos it sprung a leak - I FORGOT to wire them bolts when I put it back. I went to Denmark and Sweden then, 2300 mile round trip, and sure enough I've lost two bolts !

Bugger.

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Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: Graham Ham] #336931
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Hey Rmak,

I like the technique posted by Kngkong. However, for what it's worth, here's a picture of mine before I tore it apart. This may not be the Meriden method, because the dealer swapped tanks between a Bonnie and my TR6 before he sold the bikes back in 1964.

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Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: rmak] #336967
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That is the meriden way according to an old road test pic.
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Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: rmak] #336980
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OK, just to be an old fart, I have never seen one from the factory done either of these two ways. They used a single piece of wire that ran across from one bolt to the other. It ran parallel to the tank mount strap.

It was a quite heavy wire that was plated. It looped through one bolt across to the other without being twisted. The the two tails that went through the second bolt were twisted for about 1/2."

It is clearly illustrated in a half dozen odd pictures in Bacon's Triumph Twin Restoration.

That said, they were often cut off when removing the tank and rarely replaced once the tank was removed the first time.
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Re: Wiring gas tank bolts tight [Re: rmak] #337024
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The last time the dealer serviced my dad's old bike (now mine) back in about '81, he didn't even bother to REPLACE the tank strap. It was sitting in the tool kit under the seat when I got the bike...guess he wanted to save a few minutes labor...either that or it was my dad who was trying to save some time!! laugh

Not a good idea, especially with the OIF tanks!

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