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THE Final (hopefully) Spitfire Numbers..... #239905
02/26/09 12:29 am
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guys....read it...from the files of Alistair Cave......

quote........
Alistair bequeathed material to the BSAOC and in that was his factory weekly production register. The production of Spitfires were as follows:-
1964/65 Spitfire Hornet 2139
1966 Spitfire MkII 3719
1967 Spitfire MkIII 3058
1968 Spitfire Mark IV 471
This excludes the Mark III Spitfires upgraded to Mark IV specification. These are composite figures and so each year would have home, USA East Coast, West Coast and export specification models.
........end quote

mirror, mirror on the wall, what Spitfire is the rarest of them all?

man oh man...I would love a breakdown of the specific markets, but I have info from the BSA OC that between 70% - 80% were exported to the US.

hope this settles some bets..I know i was ecstatic to find this out...

BeSt regArds,
Eric

Last edited by Spitfire44; 02/26/09 12:31 am.

'74 Norton Commando Interstate
'70 BSA Thunderbolt
'68 BSA Spitfire Mk IV
'44 BSA WM20
'40 BSA WM20
'72 Honda CB750
'81 Yamaha XT500 (x2)

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Re: THE Final (hopefully) Spitfire Numbers..... [Re: Spitfire44] #239934
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Eric,

It looks like a clip from a longer narrative. Who is the source? Can you scan the document and show it to us?

If the numbers are accurate, I'm surprised there are more '66's than '67's.


1967 BSA Wasp
1967 BSA Hornet (West Coast Model)
1967 BSA Hornet (East Coast Model)
1968 BSA Firebird Scrambler
1968 BSA Spitfire Mark IV
Re: THE Final (hopefully) Spitfire Numbers..... [Re: Gary E] #239970
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Those 1968 numbers seem low... I would have expected the numbers to be similar to 66-67.

Not that I mind, since it likely means my one-owner 68 is worth more? Come spring, I'm still using it as my daily rider wink

Re: THE Final (hopefully) Spitfire Numbers..... [Re: MarcB] #240023
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Guys....this info is from an email that I got from the BSAOC while requesting my Dating Cert.... so there is no real paper document except the actual Cave docs that he left to the BSAOC....

When I look at the numbers, I too thought the '68 numbers were low and the '66 numbers were high, then I thought...'66 was the first real year of the new Spitfire, so sales must have been good, then in '67 the said supply problems with components to complete the machines must have brought down sales....and when the bikes were completed they were sold in '68.....which must account for the low number of real '68 bikes.....my bike is a '67 Y that was first sold in '68...the BSA Librarian explained that there were big issues supplying electrical components and a large number of machines that were for export sat in dockside containers having cleared customs (to draw down export credit from the government) waiting for components to become available.....(by then having missed the '67 sales year)

my '67 Spitfire has two despatch dates......as I was told from the despatch book entries....the first indicates the date despatched to the docks (possibly as an incomplete machine) and the second as a new model (one year later)
my Spit has a later production number so who knows if it applies to my bike that it had missing electrical components.

the other reason that there are low '68 numbers is that maybe the docs they have incomplete, but maybe not...who knows?

I don't have any more info other than this.......I was hoping for more from the BSAOC, but as I understand it they are always busy with Dating Certs.

hope this helps..
Eric


'74 Norton Commando Interstate
'70 BSA Thunderbolt
'68 BSA Spitfire Mk IV
'44 BSA WM20
'40 BSA WM20
'72 Honda CB750
'81 Yamaha XT500 (x2)

Re: THE Final (hopefully) Spitfire Numbers..... [Re: Spitfire44] #240199
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That information is very helpful in understanding what may have taken place at that time.

"...the BSA Librarian explained that there were big issues supplying electrical components and a large number of machines that were for export sat in dockside containers having cleared customs (to draw down export credit from the government) waiting for components to become available.....(by then having missed the '67 sales year)..."


1967 BSA Wasp
1967 BSA Hornet (West Coast Model)
1967 BSA Hornet (East Coast Model)
1968 BSA Firebird Scrambler
1968 BSA Spitfire Mark IV
Re: THE Final (hopefully) Spitfire Numbers..... [Re: Gary E] #240598
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Well, they're not FINAL numbers until you've added those Spitfires from the "pre-unit" era 1957 thru 1963. The '57 is the first and ultimate Spitfire - a Super Rocket engine in quasi-Catalina Gold Star frame.
David

Re: THE Final (hopefully) Spitfire Numbers..... [Re: ca7a] #240610
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David...yes, you're right....I guess if i had a Mk I (can I call it a Mk I?)then I would have gotten that info.....maybe one day.
Eric


'74 Norton Commando Interstate
'70 BSA Thunderbolt
'68 BSA Spitfire Mk IV
'44 BSA WM20
'40 BSA WM20
'72 Honda CB750
'81 Yamaha XT500 (x2)


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