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Paint color #135215
02/14/08 2:02 am
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I am looking for paint to match the Olympic Flame on a 1969 Bonneville.
Does anybody know of a color that looks close to that ??


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Re: Paint color #135216
02/14/08 2:40 am
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Hi,

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Originally posted by Tri-Hook:
I am looking for paint to match the Olympic Flame on a 1969 Bonneville.
Does anybody know of a color that looks close to that ??
Depends what you want the finished bike to look like.

Like most Triumph and BSA colours of the era, the original Olympic Flame is a Candy Apple (aka just 'candy') finish. Specifically, this means what you actually see is achieved by at least two coats (not counting primers, undercoats, etc.), a 'ground coat' (CA's name) - in this case the Silver - then covered by a tinted translucent lacquer. In the US, you can get the ground coat and lacquer from someone like Don Hutchinson (www.triumphman.com).

Alternatively, there is a standard Nissan dark orange metallic that looks reasonable.

However, having bought my '70 T150 painted in the Nissan metallic and had it resprayed in the proper candy (obtained here in GB), if you want your bike to look superb, as opposed to 'reasonable', the metallic is a waste of your money. Imho.

That said, 'D.W.R.' on here (also based in the US) is an auto sprayer of some 30 years experience and says it's possible to make a modern automotive metallic look as good as a candy.

Hth.

Regards,

Re: Paint color #135217
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Thanks , Stuart

Thats the kind of info I was looking for, I guess a substitute for the real thing. I just like that color and wanted something as close to it as I could get with the least amount of trouble. I have a body shop friend who paints my stuff and he can get what ever I want , but my eyes start getting blurrr after looking at paint chips very long. I am also doing the silver scallops on the tank, so it will look nice even if the color is not a perfect match. I always remind myself , my bikes are riders , so there not setting next to the more perfectly prepared bikes at the shows.

Do you happen to know what year Nisson that the paint you referred to ?

Thanks again


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Re: Paint color #135218
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House of color tangerine is very close. Experiment with silver and gold undercoats. The factory used both for different years and it changes the hue of the orange top coat considerably. This color was first spec'd in '62 and is called Olympic Flame. I have seen original paint jobs on 62 Bonnies and 69 Bonnies and the the color varies considerably from bike to bike. If the top coat is applied lightly it is a light orange color and if it is applied more heavily it takes on a reddish hue. It's really quite a lovely color and one of my favorites on a Triumph. I have done several paint jobs using this color.
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Re: Paint color #135219
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Hi,

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Originally posted by Tri-Hook:
Do you happen to know what year Nisson that the paint you referred to ?
Certainly here in GB, there's only the one Nissan dark orange metallic and, certainly when I looked for it a couple of years ago, it was a current colour.

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Originally posted by Tri-Hook:
my bikes are riders
So are mine. While I certainly set out to make my T150 a 'conkers' bike ('cos of its rarity - all my others are visibly modified wink ), and it's won prizes as such, it's also covered many miles on the road and many laps of Britain's Cadwell Park road-race circuit at the Trident & Rocket 3 Owners Club annual track days.

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Originally posted by Tri-Hook:
I have a body shop friend who paints my stuff and he can get what ever I want
The guys who painted my T150's tank and 'guards run their own accident repair company, so mainly do cars but all love bikes (mainly 1980's Jap, but they're alright wink ). They organised getting in the various correct candy colours from a specialist supplier, checked chemical make-ups, stripped everything, asked me in to check the masking for the 'flashes', clear-lacquered over the finished colour to protect it in use and organised a local sign-writer to hand-paint the pinstripes over the clear lacquer, so you can still feel 'em like original.

So why would I want a 'substitute' metallic, that doesn't look as good, because I intend to ride my bike? wink

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Originally posted by HawaiianTiger:
Experiment with silver and gold undercoats. The factory used both for different years and it changes the hue of the orange top coat considerably.
By definition, if the 'other' colour is Silver, that's the ground coat. On a production line, you'd be mad to specify two different ground coats and then expect the top coat to line up with one of the ground coats, without expecting loads of rejects.

Afaik, the only year/model Triumph specified a gold ground coat for Olympic Flame was the '71 T100 ('cos the 'other' colour is Black) and, even then, I have an original T100C tank and 'guards set where the ground coat is Silver. Gold makes for a noticeably duller finished colour than Silver (I have both to compare) so I reckon someone senior in Triumph saw early '71 T100's, thought "Yuk" and changed the ground coat spec.

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Originally posted by HawaiianTiger:
I have seen original paint jobs on 62 Bonnies and 69 Bonnies and the the color varies considerably from bike to bike.
All Triumph colours vary from bike to bike even in the same year. Afaict, Triumph sprayers didn't spray against a standard, so a given colour will vary for different ambient conditions and even different sprayers at the same time.

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Originally posted by HawaiianTiger:
one of my favorites on a Triumph.
One of Triumph's favourites too - until the factory-based production racers were sponsored by NVT ('73- or '74-on), they were painted Olympic Flame.

Hth.

Regards,

Re: Paint color #135220
02/15/08 4:27 am
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Thanks for the replies !
You'al have been very helpful on this subject and the pic of the tank is beautiful, what a great color . I will be very pleased if mine looks that good. I will take all info to my buddy and see what works for him. They do mostly car work and none of them are into bikes but he treats me good and the paint is nice looking , they are not into the scallops and that sort of thing , but the paint comes out looking slick.
I am thinking I should ask them to paint the silver first ,mask the scallops and paint the orange.
You probably guessed I'm not a painter.
SO MANY BIKES , SO LITTLE TIME
Thanks again for all the info !


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Re: Paint color #135221
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If you'd like I'll post Triumph Service Bulletin where I got the colors for '62. By definition on that, the color is Flame over gold. Mad or not, that's how it reads.
Thanks for the compliment on the paint job. I thought I would mention...That job was as original using nitrocellulose lacquer and not clear top coated. Customer wanted it that way. The old style lacquers were very difficult to master the technique of thinning and spraying. Acryllics are so much easier.
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Re: Paint color #135222
02/16/08 5:25 am
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So thats not the House of Color , Tangerine as I had thought ?
You have been very informative on the paint subject and my Powder Coating tread.
I think my biggest problem is "to many projects and not enough time" ! and lack of knowledge ,when it come to paint !


Ronnie
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